bm52 wrote:

to a degree but has anyone had any experience of rear Bumperettes or Steps like these sold by Rebel http://www.rebel4x4.co.uk/steps.htm

my nearly new Puma [if i can make the deal] will come with a tow bar etc as standard so i assume the full width step will make the fitted tow bar redundant?

thanks and apologies for the slight thread hi-jack, but i have been wondering about rear protection, the steps seem so expensive!

spudfan wrote:

This incident should help us put things into perspective. There is a lot of concern in some people's minds regarding the Puma's brake vacuum pump seal failing amonst other things. You can have the most perfectly built vehicle in the world yet have untold damage done to it by some careless idiot. This does not even take into account the possibility of injury to the occupants. Luckily "dgardel"s vehicle was well protected and poetic justice seems to have been done. If (when?) my vacuum pump seal starts to leak I will look at it in this light i.e. it could have been worse, it could have been an accident instead of this. No injuries, no insurance companies just order in and get it done. Hope you are o.k. "dgardel" as something like this is never a nice experience no matter who is at fault. All that iron mongery on the back of your Defender has definately got me thinking.. Reminds of the bloke who had little stickers on the wing of his much repaired car. There were numerous rabbits, two foxes, a gate and a telephone pole. These were all the things he had hit while driving. Once again "dgardel" trust you got over the experience o.k.

Thanks Spud,

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bpman wrote:

just fitted a genuine LR tow/step to my 110, feel a bit more protected from Italians now

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Glynparry25 wrote:

Here is the question..... is it testament to how strong the Defender is.... or is it showing how cheap and nasty European low budget cars are?.... I remember my old disco rolling forward into a Clio at about 1/2 mph and there wasn't even a scuff on the Disco but the brand new Clio needed £700 worth of work .

[...]

I would not say "nasty", but well designed modern car Ask yourself, what's more valuable, the car or the passengers?

The Land Rover Defender derives from a vehicle designed in 1948 when there was no crash test whatsoever.

Modern cars are designed to absorb the kinetic energy from an impact and save its passengers.

No matter how much I love my Defender, if I had to be in a serious car accident, I'd prefer to be in any modern European car rather than the Defender, just take a look at this

Cheers,
Olivier

dgardel wrote:

Cross member is perfect......

yes this rear step saved the cross member (now i'm sure that it was worth ALL the money) because a perfect rear cross member is better than a "perfected repaired" rear cross member.....

Mine bought HERE

Hey Daniele,

Glad you're fine and the Defender resisted bravely

Out of curiosity, is the rear step compatible with the tow bar fitted from factory, do you know?

Cheers,
Olivier.

ofourdan wrote:

dgardel wrote:

Cross member is perfect......

yes this rear step saved the cross member (now i'm sure that it was worth ALL the money) because a perfect rear cross member is better than a "perfected repaired" rear cross member.....

Mine bought HERE

Hey Daniele,

Glad you're fine and the Defender resisted bravely

Out of curiosity, is the rear step compatible with the tow bar fitted from factory, do you know?

Cheers,
Olivier.

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ofourdan wrote:

Glynparry25 wrote:

Here is the question..... is it testament to how strong the Defender is.... or is it showing how cheap and nasty European low budget cars are?.... I remember my old disco rolling forward into a Clio at about 1/2 mph and there wasn't even a scuff on the Disco but the brand new Clio needed £700 worth of work .

[...]

I would not say "nasty", but well designed modern car Ask yourself, what's more valuable, the car or the passengers?

The Land Rover Defender derives from a vehicle designed in 1948 when there was no crash test whatsoever.

Modern cars are designed to absorb the kinetic energy from an impact and save its passengers.

No matter how much I love my Defender, if I had to be in a serious car accident, I'd prefer to be in any modern European car rather than the Defender, just take a look at this

Cheers,
Olivier