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| Mountain_man Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Right side of Offas Dyke Posts: 756  
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My friend visited the other day in the brand new 130 Fire tenders they have had delivered at his station. They run the Wolf HD rims with standard studs. The nuts sit about 1 mm proud of the end of the Stud. This is normal and as they come from LR Special Vehicles so I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. Look at it another way. You have 5 nuts with 20mm of thread each = 100mm of thread. On the HD wheels you only have 95mm of thread. Is it worth changing studs for another 5mm of thread?
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1st Nov 2014 8:31pm |
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| 66north Member Since: 08 Oct 2010 Location: The North Posts: 104 
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I've owned a few 130s, the oldest being 1997 and none of them were fitted with what is commonly referred to as long wheelstuds. As above, if it's good enough for Land Rover then you don't need to waste money on longer wheelstuds
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1st Nov 2014 8:50pm |
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| 66north Member Since: 08 Oct 2010 Location: The North Posts: 104
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I've owned a few 130s, the oldest being 1997 and none of them were fitted with what is commonly referred to as long wheelstuds. As above, if it's good enough for Land Rover then you don't need to waste money on longer wheelstuds
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1st Nov 2014 8:51pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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Already lived through 6 winters with original HD Wolf wheels supplied by LR on same wheel studs as my dual finish wheels. If longer would be needed, Land Rover surely would have said so. They can not afford to compromise on safety for accessories they themselves offer.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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1st Nov 2014 9:28pm |
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| pj2106 Member Since: 20 Dec 2012 Location: Huntingdon AKA The Shire Posts: 1500 
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If they have a line on the end of the stud they are ok for hd rims if not then they will need to be changed 2008 110 2.4 XS Utility (Hagrid)
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1st Nov 2014 9:29pm |
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| Cuthbert Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: Up North Posts: 1535 |
Thanks chaps - Nice clear definitive statements!
Anyone bought a Defender this year with HD wheels and would like to comment? Belt and braces and all that? |
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2nd Nov 2014 5:33pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2641 
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I've seen three new Defenders with HD wheels through work, all have had the standard studs which leave a mm or so proud as mentioned above.
If it's good enough for Land Rover then it's good enough for me  |
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2nd Nov 2014 7:08pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Mine's a MY13 and came with the "standard" length wheel studs.
 Click image to enlarge Reading more about the topic, I came across an acticle/posting that suggested that the longer studs were only meant for the earlier vehicles with rear drum brakes. The drum was a lot thicker than the discs and therefore you could not fit a HD wheel on with the standard studs. Hence the longer studs were meant to be used with the drum brakes. Not sure if this is true, but it does seem to fit the facts, especially since LR don't seem to use the longer studs with any disc braked vehicle now. |
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5th Nov 2014 12:14pm |
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| Grouse Member Since: 16 Apr 2012 Location: on the hill Posts: 520 |
The British Army fit Wolfs to drum braked vehicles on Std Studs and merely torque them up more
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5th Nov 2014 3:49pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17365 
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That is consistent with the Puma WSM which gives the following torques:-
Steel wheels 100Nm/80lbft Alloy wheels 130Nm/96lbft Heavy duty wheels 170Nm/125lbft It is interesting also that the note "Wheel nuts must be tightened by diagonal selection" (ie the way I have been brought up always to tighten such things) is applied but only to the standard steel wheels. |
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5th Nov 2014 4:06pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Do they still have vehicles with drum brakes? |
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5th Nov 2014 4:20pm |
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| Grouse Member Since: 16 Apr 2012 Location: on the hill Posts: 520 |
Yes 100%
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5th Nov 2014 8:19pm |
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| L90Andy Member Since: 29 May 2014 Location: Stratford-Upon-Avon Posts: 717 
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Not sure if this is true, but it does seem to fit the facts, especially since LR don't seem to use the longer studs with any disc braked vehicle now.[/quote]
Exactly this. And photo evidence always helps. |
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6th Nov 2014 4:24pm |
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