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Baldinho



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Orkney Grey
http://www.brit-car.co.uk/product.php/9349...5000_02my_

Make sure it comes with the dash switch. Check if Guava still offers a discount to forum members or worth checking with other forum sponsors on price. Extortionate at RRP!
Post #368795 1st Nov 2014 5:47pm
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redzob



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Thanks. Blimey thats a lot of money.... Defender Puma 2.2 XS 90
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Way too many racing bikes.
Post #368805 1st Nov 2014 6:14pm
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Windowlicker



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
If the Landrover dash switch isn't a must, and I guess the OE loom is longer and more heavily protected than others as it runs externally , I have found the Roo light fit kit.
http://www.brit-car.co.uk/product.php/1115...arness_kit

I don't know if it is correct that Roo lights are made by light force, or are indeed just a cheaper copy.
It not exactly expensive and I guess if the important parts are there, relays, fuse , switch etc, then if the wire length is an issue they can just be extended.

Still pondering on which way to go, but the A Bar and lights are to be fitted tomorrow and then get them wired up as soon as is feasable

Cheers,

Nick
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Tiger



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There is a set on ebay for £130 loom, switch & lights. (Bargain compared to LR price, with post included)

Buy this and sell the lights for on £50-100 Thumbs Up

Get this and you'll have the loom and the correct mega expensive switch Very Happy

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LANDROVER-DEFEND...3a98aa482e

Example of lights being sold on own (after using loom & switch)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271647771491?_tr...EBIDX%3AIT
Post #368879 1st Nov 2014 9:52pm
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Lorryman100



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The switch comes with the Landreiziger kit Thumbs Up
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Baldinho



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Lorryman100 has come up trumps. Much better value and got all the stuff you need (might need some different connectors to the Lightforces but cheap to get even if so).

Great website for other stuff - thanks from me too Lorryman! Thumbs Up
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LR90XS2011



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[quote="Tiger"]There is a set on ebay for £130 loom, switch & lights. (Bargain compared to LR price, with post included)

Buy this and sell the lights for on £50-100 Thumbs Up

indeed this is a bargain, the lamps generally sell for more than that, wont be long before sold DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
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Windowlicker



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
So, with regards my stupidity as far as all things elecktrickery, does the below sound something like......

Live from battery,
Running through an inline fuse, ( (10amp?)
Carrying on to a switch on the dash,
Which then exits the swtitch and continues through the bulkhead to engine bay.
Onto a relay (30 amp??)
On the relay is the live from the battery, and a trigger wire from the headlight loom ( can't remeber if N/S or O/S and what colour , blue and orange ??)
Relay then onto the wires to the spots

With it this way , I assume the dash switch will just be an interuppter switch, stopping the spots coming on with the main beam, rather than an independent on/off switch??.

Goddam this is making my pea brain hurt Shocked Big Cry

A bar fitted this morning and spot lights all in place, just not working Embarassed
Only bonus being the lights were sold as 140's and when I actually got them home and started to clean them etc, i thought they looked a little large, so tape measure out and........
They are 170's Mr. Green most excrement , as I really wanted them anyway Very Happy

Thanks in advance for any info chaps

Cheers,
Nick
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K9F



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Main feeds....Blue with grey stripe nearside headlamp, black with pink stripe offside, choice is yours. Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #369009 2nd Nov 2014 1:56pm
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Lorryman100



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Just fitted the Landreiziger kit and all in took me 4 hours ( should have taken me 3 hours Evil or Very Mad ) as I had to remove the LR spot loom first and I like to take my time and do a tidy install.
So all installed, relay inserted and then the fuse. Jumped in the drivers seat and started the Puma and put on the high beams, the Noldens went into high beam but the light bar, nada, nothing. So out with the DMM and found no power at the lightbar connection, ahh I thought I know where the issue may be. Nope wasn't what I thought it was and to save boring you all with the fault finding which after I completed showed no faults found??? It turned out the dash switch you get in the kit is required for the loom to work and I had used the original switch which came with the LR loom so wasted an hour trying to fault find a non existant fault. Embarassed
So in with the new switch and once again started the Puma and switched on the high beams, result the light bar was shining bright, now off to set up the light bar in the dark.
Post #369057 2nd Nov 2014 5:17pm
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X4SKP



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Hello Windowlicker

Spooky Shocked

I have a new pair of

170 mm Striker Driving Lights with Crystal Blue Filters

and need to fit them, and like you need a wiring kit and GOOD instructions.

I haven't made a decision yet, but think I will stick with Light Force as the product looks impressive and so hopefully their wiring harness should also be worth considering too, just need to track one down. I will check its cost against a Land Rover spotlight wiring kit, as one 'negative' I can see is that the LF harness, will obviously not have the Land Rover OE Dash board light switch (to isolate the Spots) but the LF harness may work with one,
if I source this independently. (but I don't know if this is correct).

I'm sure the LF harness will be less £ than the LR harness, but currently don't know this either... Exclamation

I have found a couple of things that may help...


A Wiring Diagram...(drawn the way I like them, could be improved by showing coloured wires Exclamation )
http://www.ozautoelectrics.com/lightforce-wiring-harness.html


The Light Force Harness...(I'm looking for a good UK Supplier)

http://www.terrafirma4x4.com/docs/Lightforce_Brochure.pdf
A useful Brochure...

A YouTube Video showing the DIY approach


Let us know how you get on... Thumbs Up SKIP
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html
Post #369079 2nd Nov 2014 6:21pm
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X4SKP



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Bit more on the Light Force Wiring Harness route...

Harness Instructions...
http://lightforce.com/assets/Instruction%2...12_web.pdf

Harness at £52.06 inc VAT...
http://www.devon4x4.com/index.php?page=sho...;Itemid=14 SKIP
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Post #369140 2nd Nov 2014 10:34pm
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Windowlicker



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K9F and X4SKP , Thanks formtaking the time to post the diagrams Thumbs Up

k9's being a little too technical for me , Embarassed Laughing and X4 , yours is much more understandable ( simple ) and nearly along the lines of the toddler esque variety I was after , ( picture the shape of a car, front wheels, back wheels, battery in situ and lights at the front Shocked , you get the idea Whistle Mr. Green )

Having been out tonight to take the dog, I couldn't wait to try them, I flicked the switch , and wow , most impressive, really pleased with my purchase Thumbs Up Cool quite literally Retina rippingly rude Shocked

Not really , I made that up, I just drove along wondering what they would be like, due to the fact I am irritatingly crap with electrics Rolling Eyes

So I will sort, one way or another this week, as it is getting on my tits now Laughing

Thanks again chaps.

Cheers,
Nick
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custom90



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K9's diagram is the same as mine but without the switch.
With mine full beam on so are spots and that is how it's triggered.
Easy and simple and there when you want it and off when you want it.
Post #369146 2nd Nov 2014 11:40pm
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SS90



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Is the Lightforce wiring loom long enough for the Defender as read a few comments saying it was too short?
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