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Dave T



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Is this the start of the end of greenlaning
Just came across this on facebook, is this the beginning of the end of greenlaning?

http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2...Di&s=1 2015 RRS Autobiography SDV6
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Link works for me but content concerns. Good spot DaveT 2011 D4 Nara Bronze
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Dave T



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Does this work

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/b...m033-n.htm 2015 RRS Autobiography SDV6
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mk1collector



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Thumbs Up yep that works and yep it does seem like the end of greenlaning Sad
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I'm not saying that it's fine and can be ignored but just take stock of what it is saying. The first part is basically making it easier for land owners and tenants to put stockproof barriers up in the form of stiles and gates etc etc as under current legislation if you want to put livestock in a field with a ROW the approvals needed to put up a new barrier has to pass so many hoops with councils at Parish and County level, hopefully this will streamline and regularise what is acceptable for both the keepers of the livestock and the users of the ROW's
Yes the second part is concerning where some of the anti vehicle fraternity can argue that it costs more to keep the ROW suitable for vehicle access than for foot access, what is really needed to be stressed is that by allowing vehicle access can totally alleviate any need for repair for foot access but it is one that needs to be played with a lot of thought and perhaps comprimise such as the less sustainable lanes having sensible restrictions when conditions render vehicular travel detrimental to the lanes integrity. This is the contentious bit, who makes the decision? I hope to God it wouldn't be in the hands of the clueless!
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Only a report at this stage but probably the end is nigh, NERC bill good as killed it off a few years ago, this is the final nail if it gets passed Andy
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The beginning of the end was years ago. The end is now, I fear, relatively nigh.
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Matt110



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Quote from the Glass website on the deregulation bill.

The link is their summary press release and is worth a read.

THE FUTURE OF GREEN LANING 

Some of you may have heard about The Deregulation Bill and how it might affect rights of way. The Bill is about simplifying processes and will enable Government to make changes to legislation. The draft bill had a section in it on rights of way that the Anti’s are trying to hijack. 

Their proposal was to turn all BOATs and UCRs into Restricted Byways! 

Rights of Way is a very small portion of the original Draft Bill but out of a total of 350 letters and submissions more than 50% was about Rights of Way, so it is a very emotive subject. So far the drafting committee has not accepted attempts by organisations such as GLEAM, Peak Horse Power, etc to add any new restrictions to rights of way by amendment. 

There is a GLASS briefing document on the link below and we suggest you read it for more info. This potentially could be NERC2 as we are not out of the woods yet. 


WHAT CAN YOU DO? 

Well the simple answer to that is join us. GLASS will continue our fight to retain recreational vehicular rights of way, and the more members we have, the more effective we are.

See our information sheet here [url] https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwTiw_yyiz...li=1[/url]
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Cuthbert



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Recently when viewing some high quality cattle, the breeder was bemoaning some of the 'nutters' he has to contend with crossing his fields using the rights of way.

As we examined the herd of breeding stock (in calf) he was fairly relaxed about those who behave responsibly and was scathing about those who seem to enjoy ripping up the track surface, breaking fences, letting their dogs chase his expensive stock and leaving the gates open behind them.

He also made the point that an afternoon's off-road entertainment often leaves a trail of destruction, that the 'convoys' expect him to pay to repair after they have gone off back to their homes.

As I came down off the hill in my Defender I drove gently and remembered to close the gate securely at the exit to the main road.

Somewhere in all of this is a balanced solution for reasonably minded folk.
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The amendment was withdrawn at the last minute. Still it's no time for complacency. I joined GLASS to know that I'm helping in some small way by backing their fighting fund. Would recommend anyone who greenlanes to join as well. Here's a link:
http://www.glass-uk.org/index.php

This is especially worthy if you read the GLEAM web site, it's frightening:

http://www.gleam-uk.org/

According to some they can be aggressive in their pursuit of a ban on cars on unsealed roads.

The Trial Riders Fellowship also give support to a sensible approach to greenlanes, that is one of sharing. Might be too sensible for the anti's.

Merlin
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