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| Bionicmunky Member Since: 15 Oct 2013 Location: High Wycombe - Buckinghamshire Posts: 108   
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TMD to an upgrade as do some of the other customising outfits (Twisted, ALive, UrbanTruck?)
http://www.tunemydefender.com/wheels-and-tyres |
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7th Oct 2014 2:08pm |
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| Merlin Member Since: 30 Oct 2010 Location: Newmarket Posts: 981
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Cheapest option is to fit Green Stuff pads. Best on faced discs. Certainly a low cost improvement.
Merlin |
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7th Oct 2014 3:45pm |
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| OleDave Member Since: 19 Oct 2013 Location: CARDIFF Posts: 175 
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Thanks guys, what are green stuff pads Merlin?
Many thanks ole dave |
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7th Oct 2014 6:36pm |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1780  
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Google 'Green Stuff' pads, its a trade name, I fitted them, new discs, calipers and stainless steel braided hoses and it feels much better, 4 wheel lock up if I try hard!
Keith |
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7th Oct 2014 6:49pm |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3641 
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look up EBC brakes on Google they make Green Stuff pads DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,
I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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7th Oct 2014 6:50pm |
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| OleDave Member Since: 19 Oct 2013 Location: CARDIFF Posts: 175
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Thanks guys, I understand now as I know the name EBC ! will be changing the discs and pads early next year before the towing season starts again so will give them a shot as I am not happy with the braking currently.
Just for intrest I am thinking of changing my caravan next year and as a member of the caravan club I did an outfit check on their web site which matches any car to a caravan, on checking the Puma defender for matches there were not any perfect matches whatever weight your looking at, even 2 berth was not suitable which surprised me and made me contact their technical dept for an answer, the outcome was that the Puma in their calculations falls short at 122hp of suitable horse power for towing hence no matches, by having a remap to increase the hp by only 18hp the defender then becomes suitable as it reaches the 140hp min required and can tow then up to 1500 kilos, so going to go to BAS next spring for an upgrade, I am advised by BAS that 150 and even 160 is achievable!! Thanks again guys for all your advice Regards Dave |
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8th Oct 2014 8:10am |
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| william8 Member Since: 03 Apr 2013 Location: Motherwell Posts: 259  
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8th Oct 2014 8:23am |
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| Merlin Member Since: 30 Oct 2010 Location: Newmarket Posts: 981
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I'm in the C&C as well. The recommended towing combination of 75%, is just there to give a rough guide to members. You can tow what you like, and even at 100% ratio it just means could be unstable if you let it. Hence tales of NA Defenders towing jets around.
I tow a 8M Bailey and have since both were new. I found the Puma gutless but capable even with the caravan fully loaded and I'm sure my ratio was well outside the recommendations. Since having a remap from Alive it's a doddle to tow so I'd suggest a V1 map from them. Fuel economy is better too. BTW I think that the C&C don't consider that the car will be loaded as well so adjusting the ratio considerably. Like 4 people, dogs and all their junk! Merlin |
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8th Oct 2014 8:51am |
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| OleDave Member Since: 19 Oct 2013 Location: CARDIFF Posts: 175
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Hi Merlin, well surprise surprise another CC member! I have a Eldiss Golden Crown 2 berth which was manufactured in 1995 and weighs in at 1060 kilos plus 185 kilos additional personal load, I have found the Defender great for towing the van and attacks hills without a murmer, I had a BMW 530D previously with 190hp available to the right foot but the Defender makes it look stupid which gave me a shock as its only 122 hp!
I am sure it would be superior with a greater hp and a remap might be the way to go, its just the cost Merlin, I am retired now so have to count the pennies these days or the wife would have to go without shoes! Regards Dave |
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8th Oct 2014 9:53am |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
Braided hoses and fresh oil,there is an issue getting braided hoses for late model TD5's tho,dunno if that issue carries over to the Puma Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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8th Oct 2014 9:56am |
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| MR_JAMES Member Since: 10 Oct 2013 Location: ESSEX Posts: 248 
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I've had green stuff in my classic mini. They take a while to warm up before they work properly... they really are for fast road use. So unless your racing around in your mini or racing around i don't believe you want these.
i changed to black stuff and they are amazing! dont need to warm up just work straight away. Do they make those for defenders tho? 1953 80" 1987 mini city e 2011 90" |
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8th Oct 2014 7:17pm |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3784  
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Before you go changing anything from O.E., you will need to tell any supplier what it is that you will mainly be using your vehicle for. Most pad manufacturers have different pads for different applications.
So, with your discs in good shape & the right pads for YOU, you should be good to go. Pickles. |
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8th Oct 2014 8:54pm |
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| OleDave Member Since: 19 Oct 2013 Location: CARDIFF Posts: 175
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Hi guys and many thanks for all your input re brakes, MR-JAMES there are options for Black Stuff pads for the Puma as have checked, and your correct I do not think the green stuff would be suitable if used for performance cars as the Defender is a slogger not a Jogger so will avoid those.
The black stuff reply does state that they are a good match when I asked about fitting to the defender, so have saved the info and intend after xmas to change the discs for drilled and grooved plus fit the black stuff pads, the current discs are ok but considering the brake performance is not great I think a change of disc all around would help as well as fit these pads on all four wheels. Well thanks agin you guys, this site is great for help and advice, keep up the good work chaps its appreciated!!! Ole Dave |
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9th Oct 2014 10:53am |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1780
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I spent today towing a 3.5 tonne Ifor Williams fully loaded up and down the Fish Hill on the A44 near Broadway, The IRB remap makes the trip up much easier & the greenstuff pads make the slowing down for the corners safe and secure with no fade at all.
Keith |
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9th Oct 2014 8:46pm |
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