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NJSS

Member Since: 26 Aug 2014
Location: Catherington
Posts: 31

Petition to HMG: Pay road fund tax by the day!

Please read & Sign up! It affects us all...

https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/70266

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6th Oct 2014 8:10pm

JWL

Member Since: 26 Oct 2011
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3443

Considering that you are not supposed to have two lots of insurance on one car, can be checked on the MIB databaseand now with the police being entirely reliant on ANPR cameras I cannot see the problem for the DVLA if they are actually geared up to do the job

I think most of us have had their own little "mishaps" when dealing with Swansea's finest

6th Oct 2014 9:01pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17344

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I have to say that I really don't understand the fuss about the issue of selling a car under the new tax regime - it is after all exactly the same situation that existed before if the car was sold without tax, i.e., the seller kept the tax disc and claimed the outstanding tax back.

In the old days you kept the tax disc, sent it off to DVLA, and were refunded any outstanding full months' tax, so you paid tax on the whole of the month in whch you sold the vehicle but not for subsequent months. The buyer had to tax the vehicle for the whole of the month in which it was bought (and technically display a tax disc even when he drove the car away), and so in effect the car was double-taxed for the month in which it was sold. So all that has really changed is that the option to sell the car with the outstanding tax has been removed. Big deal!

OK, it may make it slightly harder for the buyer to drive the car away from the sale legally, but the obligation to tax and insure the car from the moment of title transfer hasn't changed one iota.

7th Oct 2014 8:45am

JWL

Member Since: 26 Oct 2011
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3443

With the older second hand car market the fact that there was a few months tax on the motor would often be the deal clincher. It is deep in the British psyche to think that a better deal is had when tax is present on a motor that you buy rather than having to go out and pay for tax on top of the purchase price. There are going to be many sales of cars made on the last day of the month in the future

7th Oct 2014 8:53am

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Nothing to stop people still negotiating the cost of the tax within the purchase price? I think it's all 'smoke without fire' as Blackwolf mentioned fundamentally not much has changed and I don't think it will have any influence at all upon sales and dates apart from driving away immediately after the deal is done as stated. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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7th Oct 2014 9:31am

jimbob7

Member Since: 06 Jul 2013
Location: uk
Posts: 2055

In the old days,lol, if you liked the car you were looking at you phoned up the insurance and took the car away there and then,I've never bought a car where there wasn't some tax left,for the sake of a sale the tax disc wasn't worth cashing in.Now,you have to wait for you insurance certificate to turn up or be registered with the MIB ("a few hours or a few days"),buy the car and before driving it away go looking for a post office to tax it.A lot of messing about especially if you have to travel a long way to view a car. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.

7th Oct 2014 10:49am

dondiddy

Member Since: 13 Nov 2012
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 224

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong! If I sell a car(As a private individual) then I have to send off the V5 to DVLA to notify them that I am no longer responsible for the vehicle. DVLA will then refund me any outstanding road tax. In order to do this I have to post the V5 to DVLA so therefore the vehicle is still taxed when the new owner drives it away so there is no need to hunt down a Post Office as soon as you buy a car. If buying from a dealer you very rarely turn up and drive away the same day so have time to sort out the tax.If travelling a distance to buy a car then with a little pre-planning getting the tax the same day is entirely possible by buying it online(Or getting someone at home to do it online for you)Previously I would think most people who bought an untaxed car would just drive it home untaxed and sort out the tax later.Are people overthinking the changes?

7th Oct 2014 6:40pm

dondiddy

Member Since: 13 Nov 2012
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 224

As for the petition whilst it might make sense for some expensive road tax my everyday runabout is a Clio diesel which if I paid monthly by direct debit would be £2.63p! The cost to administer the 8p a day would obviously make a daily charge a non starter! (For the Clio at least!)

7th Oct 2014 6:46pm

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