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| Crafty1980 Member Since: 21 Jul 2014 Location: Norfolk Posts: 74  
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So... Big day today... Years of saving and I've finally put my order in for a new 90! Arrives in October which seems like decades away. But hey, at least it gives me weeks to write a shopping list of stuff I want to bolt onto it in the coming years!
First of all, safety... I'm not planning on doing too many extreme things, but will definitely be off roading it (obviously) so think I will need a roll cage... Of some description! I've been looking about... Seems that the basic options are half/full cage... Internal/external/both... Some certified, some not. (Guess that refers to competition spec stuff?) Any advice greatly received! ...or maybe I shouldn't bother?!? I just feel that it would be a good idea seeing how basic and flimsy the defender superstructure is! |
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5th Aug 2014 9:01pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579 
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Don't be daft the best factory defender ever has a roll cage the 50th and so did the tomb raider.
The best current and approved roll cage is the one by bowler. This used on the bowler Motorsport defender. Really good kit if you can afford it. |
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5th Aug 2014 9:34pm |
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| Jonno1968 Member Since: 24 Oct 2013 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 245 
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Tomraider looks chavvy to me. Each to thier own!
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5th Aug 2014 9:40pm |
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| Dale Member Since: 14 Jul 2014 Location: Bristol Posts: 79 
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Guess that makes me a chav then!
Technically the Tombraider doesn't have a roll cage, but a roof rack retention system! It doesn't bolt through to chassis so won't offer same level of protection as a proper roll cage. |
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5th Aug 2014 10:45pm |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328
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I'm a Chav I have a 50th (looking for a TR)
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6th Aug 2014 6:05am |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579
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I used to have a 110 TR. Used to spend most of my evenings at maccies wheel spinning on trays.
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6th Aug 2014 6:30am |
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| jerseyman Member Since: 21 Jul 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 279 |
[Pedant Mode] the TR "roll cage" is in fact a screen protection bar, not a roll cage [/Pedant mode] Brian |
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6th Aug 2014 9:01am |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039  
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If you feel like you need a roll cage fit one.
A defender superstucture or everything above the chassis is not even waterproof let alone rollproof. I never rolled a 4x4 myselves yet but a few times allmost. My Camel Discovery had a safety devices rollcage. My current offroad toy a td5 90 didn't have and I serious play with it:  Click image to enlarge And Yes I think there might be a chanche that I will roll it so I am building a rollcage now. This is a flat pack North Offroad rollcage but I will make small design changes. 
Click image to enlarge Roel 1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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6th Aug 2014 9:42am |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579
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It wasn't officially a roll but it did bolt onto the chassis. I used to put a fair weight on the roof rack as well. Wish I hadn't sold it now. Brought a new one with electric windows and TC oh well live and learn.
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6th Aug 2014 10:35am |
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| Crafty1980 Member Since: 21 Jul 2014 Location: Norfolk Posts: 74
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Saw this today. Only reinforces my feelings about a cage!!
http://www.lro.com/news-reviews/2014/9/tha...der-rolls/ |
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9th Sep 2014 6:58pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443  
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I know all those involved and Steve( the driver ) is a mate. Yes whilst the result does look a mess the main reason that the roof has peeled off was due to the roof tent and other odd storage boxes he had fitted to his roofrack plus him kicking the roof out further to get him and Munch out.
Click image to enlarge When it was uprighted it was given a few minutes then started and drove by itself to the waiting trailer Click image to enlarge With the rest of the roof detached from the vehicle it wasn't as flat as you may think and the following is of it being driven off the trailer when it got to some secure storage. Click image to enlarge Personally, whilst yes a cage can be a life saver, I am more concerned about peoples driving abilities when it comes to the crunch plus the airborne missile factor of the loose objects that come to join in the mayhem of a crash. What isn't too well known is that the car that was following was his wife being towed by the 90 with a rigid pole. Poor Leslie had to just sit there and watch the 90 with her husband and 18 month old son flip over in front of her. It was only a month ago they were all three in the 90 doing a round trip to Croatia and back. |
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9th Sep 2014 7:41pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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I just wonder what they were doing/ what went wrong to roll a Defender whist travelling in convoy on a Tarmac road.
Brendan |
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9th Sep 2014 7:46pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443
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After speaking to Steve, the reason may be the fact that the Freelander was being towed on a rigid pole and that stretch of road is a bit of a pig at the best of times, a long downhill with a slight left hander as you go down it and it has got a pig of a camber on it. It can give you a bit of a warning shot if you go down it a bit fast in a 7½ tonner, he felt it lose it a bit on the back end, perhaps the Freelander continued to push as he eased off on the throttle, next thing he knew was seeing the world at a completely different angle.
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9th Sep 2014 7:59pm |
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