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Caterham



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making a job of it
so to set the scene;

you've had a tarmacked drive way for the last 35 years. clearly any subsidence, settling, compacting etc has all taken place years ago.

you decide you'd like a nice new block pave driveway.

guys arrive to lay new drive.

first thing they do is rip up tarmac and road stone below so they can put several tons of stone back in and compact it before they start to screed it - why?

can't you just rip up the minimal depth of tarmac and screed straight on top of the already compacted base?
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Jonno1968



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I see your point but if they are to put their name to it they will probably want to be certain about the sub base rather than rely on historic compactment. Also, the act of ripping up you old tarmac drive will have an unsettling effect on the existing sub base. Its not like they could peel it off like rolling up a carpet, i guess they had some mechanical stuff in there?!
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Caterham



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I've not had my drive done but I am thinking of doing it myself (bit by bit).

admittedly it will be more labour intensive but I plan to carefully lift the tarmac to the required depth, screed and lay blocks, leaving base as it is / has been for the last c30 years.
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scotty38



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Will it affect your MPG having different drive materials?
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Caterham



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I sincerely hope so - that's the motivating force behind this idea.

I'm thinking highly polised marble blocks to reduce friction improving mpg and tyre wear.





Rolling with laughter
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diesel_jim



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A nice smooth drive also helps you to see the nuts & bolts that fall off overnight.....
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Caterham



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don't remind me.

damn cups / springs on the handbrake shoes retainers.
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gilarion



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Caterham wrote:
I sincerely hope so - that's the motivating force behind this idea.

I'm thinking highly polised marble blocks to reduce friction improving mpg and tyre wear.





Rolling with laughter


I would haver asked for an inclined path that way you could just either roll in or roll out of your drive with the engine off, the fuel saved over a lifetime would be considerable. Wink
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Caterham



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I guess this is going off topic just a little but you've given me a great idea.....

each night when I park up I could jack the back up on to some ramps and then each morning roll off them.

Mr. Green
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Happyoldgit



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diesel_jim wrote:
A nice smooth drive also helps you to see the nuts & bolts that fall out of the owners head overnight.....


Whistle Steve.
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What puddle?



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I've done a lot of research on driveways over the past couple of years, as we plan to do ours next year. I've spoken to many 'experts' along the way about what's good, and what isn't. We've finally decided on the following due to it being relatively cheap, REALLY easy to do (easy diy), and practical...
http://www.coregravel.co.uk/products/coreg...ilisation/
It works out at around £20 per sq mtr - plus gravel (Wickes do a nice shade of Cotswold pea shingle for about £32 a tonne bag).

We currently have a concrete imprinted/patterned driveway. However, it has become patchy, and although I have looked at having it re-siliconed, it will just do the same again in time. I know the above stuff won't appeal to everyone, but having looked at EVERYTHING and every way possible of doing a driveway, we think this is, on balance, the best. The plastic cores are only an inch deep, and very strong. It allows water through, and you can get it up if you need to get at a water main, etc. Now left.
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munch90



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gravel drive as a another sercurity measure , ever tried walking on gravel quietly Laughing
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Caterham



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Rolling with laughter

like it Steve.....I can actually believe this happens to some owners.......... Whistle
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Happyoldgit



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Gravel is a PITA. It treads in the house, gets stuck in tyres which spreads the stuff onto the road, drop anything small on it and it's immediately lost, weeds appear in it even if its got a membrane barrier, it's painful to lay or kneel on. Terrible stuff. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
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landy andy



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I would do as you first suggest, and just remove top layer, leaving the stone base, then apply a membrane, then lay blocks on sharp sand.

When I did my block drive, I put down the hardcore, and hogging/type 1, and then left it for about a year (whilst drive in use) before block paving, and even after compacting it still settled a lot during this period. Was pleased I had given it this time before final layer.

Andy
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