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Fujixs90



Member Since: 19 Jun 2014
Location: Yarm
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Fuji White
Puma 2.2 gearbox crunch
So I've had my defender for 3 weeks, it's only been on my drive for 12 days, and back at the dealers for 8 days??? Latest issue is the gearbox. When it's cold the first 4 or 5 times 5th and 6th gear are selected they crunch violently. The dealer assures me this is normal, I am not saying I don't believe them, but I just wondered if anyone else has come across this issue?

Many thanks.
Post #342698 4th Jul 2014 7:25am
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Happyoldgit



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As long as you don't try racing changes from cold then no it shouldn't crunch. Ask them to let you test drive another vehicle or two to prove that they all do it. Steve.
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Post #342726 4th Jul 2014 9:49am
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Stickleback



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
I find when the engine etc is cold, any hurried gear change has a slight crunch to it. I've quickly learned to drive round the problem.

Agree that if you're not happy, a trip to dealer is in order - there may be something wrong/out of adjustment
Post #342774 4th Jul 2014 12:09pm
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keith



Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
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I'm the one to ask about gearbox probs .
Started when 8 weeks old , 2yrs later , 13 wks in the stealer , 2nd clutch , 2 main boxes and 2 transfer in the past 12 months and it's in again now for 3 weeks .
Yep your gonna have gearbox issues my friend .
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Fujixs90



Member Since: 19 Jun 2014
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Fuji White
I am doing a very slow gear change when cold, but this is more of grinding, like as if the synchromesh has failed on 5th and 6th.
Post #342822 4th Jul 2014 4:23pm
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custom90



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When were the fluids last changed?
Post #342823 4th Jul 2014 4:26pm
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Mjibex



Member Since: 21 Mar 2013
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Loire Blue
It is common - more do it than don't.

Mine does.
Post #342828 4th Jul 2014 4:43pm
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Cuthbert



Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
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It's a primitive truck and the gearchange would never win any awards for refinement.

So the issue you are trying to determine is ............ is it 'normal' for a Defender or is it goosed? I drove another 2014 model the other day and I must say the gearbox on it felt a lot less clunky than my own.
Post #342867 4th Jul 2014 7:52pm
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DSB



Member Since: 02 Mar 2014
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Indus Silver
Mine crunches from 2nd to 3rd at the first change, this was covered in another thread and the advice was to double de-clutch. This works for me.
Post #342948 5th Jul 2014 6:36am
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pob1968



Member Since: 20 Apr 2014
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I do as others said now, don't hurry it while engine is cold from first to second and it's fine. I also pause for like a split second when going through neutral and it seems to change pretty fine most of the time. A little slack as props joints take up drive as you let out the clutch but again by smooth driving it's not an issue. 110 Hardtop
Post #342962 5th Jul 2014 7:41am
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
5-6 sounds unusual , as other have said it will never be a racing change, mine is nursed 1-2 but fine in all other changes, best bet is (as others have said) go to dealers ask to drive another one you can then be sure if yours is different.

good luck DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #342964 5th Jul 2014 7:47am
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Fujixs90



Member Since: 19 Jun 2014
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Fuji White
Many thanks for your responses. I do feel I need to try another one to put my mind at rest, I am doing very slow gear changes especially when the car is cold. It seems like the synchromesh has failed on 5th, possibly caused by the engine hanging revs between 4th and 5th only?
Post #343065 5th Jul 2014 6:42pm
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AlanH



Member Since: 15 Mar 2010
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My 2010 suffered from horrible back lash problems but never any gear crunching. Stealer did well on the back lash and now it drives quite well........for a Deafener that is. Laughing
AlanH.

PS. But it has had a new transfer box in for the last 12K as the original had a noise like bagpipes coming from it. Don't get me wrong I love the pipes, but not from my gear boxes.
Post #343350 7th Jul 2014 7:52am
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