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deaftonewonder



Member Since: 20 Sep 2012
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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Alpine White
Defender td5 110 y2k. Brake light fuse blowing
Hi guys

I have a really frustrating problem that i cant fix and would much apreciate anyone's insight!
I have been having starting / charging problems for a while now, so to begin with i have;

Clean ecu plug
Replace injector harness
Clean earth points on loom, alternator & starter
Reconditioned starter motor
New regulator & brushes in alternator

Now the brake light fuse blows when pedal is depressed.
(Fuse is number 6 from top left of the fuse panel in front of the gear stick)
I've only noticed over the weekend when i drove from plymouth to bournemouth with no brake lights!

As well as the brake lights, its the fuse for reverse lights and the alternator so starting is difficult and battery not charging

So what i've checked so far;

All brake bulbs replaced,
new bulb holders
Inspected loom from bulbs all along chassis entry/ exit point
Disconnect tow socket
Clean earth points on loom
Change start/charge relay
New brake light switch

I have noticed the brake light fuse is ok if its idling on the drive but drive 200 meters and touch the pedal and 'pop' -cue some colourfull language Wink
-im thinking once the alternator starts to charge the battery too much current flows through the circuit and pops the fuse when the pedal is pressed?

So, can anyone think of what to check next before i fork out £160+ for a new alternator or am i on the right path to getting this sorted?

Thankyou!
Jim
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munch90



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I would say its nothing to do with alternator itself
if fuse goes when pedal pressed then say its got to be a short somewhere
has it got high level brake light if so check wiring to that
was it blowing the fuse before other work done ?
Post #318833 24th Mar 2014 9:37pm
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deaftonewonder



Member Since: 20 Sep 2012
Location: plymouth
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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Alpine White
Hi thanks for the quick reply!

Thats what i thought & i spent sat & sunday tracing all the wires in the rear loom and all look fine, no chafes and perfect continuity.

As i say, when its at idle on the driveway the brake switch operates fine but under load driving down the road it will blow when the brake switch is pressed -thats why i thought is it when the alternator kicks in to charge the battery?

it is only since the rectifier & brushes have been changed

My wagon is pretty famous for spurious electrical gremlins & really kicking myself for buying a td5 now...
Post #318840 24th Mar 2014 10:04pm
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munch90



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what's the voltage when charging?
perfect continuity but is there any leak to earth?
if alternator was overcharging bulbs would blow not fuse
Post #318843 24th Mar 2014 10:12pm
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custom90



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Sounds like a possibly damaged live feed wire, test for continuity between live and earth with the battery disconnected but the brake pressed. If you get any reading there is a short, possibly might not show if it's intermediate.
You must disconnect the battery though. Exclamation
Regardless of the above the next route is wire tracing which is the next stage but can be difficult.
Look for any signs of damage of wiring and wires visible at the very least.
Are your front sidelights affected at all?
Also disconnect the lights then operate the brake and see what happens.
If it still blows then it's a short if it doesn't then it could possibly the the light fixture"
Also check the connectors. Chillin In The BackwoodsπŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ
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custom90



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It might also be that a short is caused on the road simply because it's an intermittent short caused by the slight movement from being in movement.
The extra alternator voltage also makes the voltage a touch higher also so is even more likely to blow the fuse even faster.
The extra voltage also means the short will jump just that little bit further through possibly damaged insulation. Chillin In The BackwoodsπŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ
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Post #318852 24th Mar 2014 10:27pm
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deaftonewonder



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Alpine White
Hi guys

Bit of an update:

Been going through fuses like crazy getting to & from work this week but they're free so Wink

Downloaded a copy of rave & printed out circuit diagrams / headers of interest so will be an interesting weekend....
tore my dash apart thisafternoon and couldnt find any chaffes in the loom.

I Borrowed a fluke from work & tested a few wires but lost the light so will investigate more tomorrow

One interesting thing though: i tested the voltage across fuse 6 with the engine running
(i know its not great for the multimeter but its free)
When i pushed the brake pedal i got 17+ volts! -any thoughts?

Thanks for the above replies, i'll be working through the suggestions tomorrow!

Edit:
Forgot to say, sidelights are ok and no other systems effected (touch wood!)
Doesn't even blow when in reverse, just when the brake is pedal touched (intermittently)
Post #319876 28th Mar 2014 8:54pm
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