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blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17450

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Which is, no doubt, why the TSB says in effect, "don't mess about, just change the whole engine".

14th Mar 2014 8:49am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17450

This seems to be all that the WSM says about the PCJs. As can be seen, they bolt to the block at the base of the bores.

To replace them at the very least the sump, oil pump, and ladder frame would need to come off; it is not clear whether they can be accessed with the crankshaft and pistons in place but it seems likely that they can, however I don't think (although I may well be wrong) that the ladder frame can be removed with the engine in the vehicle. It certainly seems to be a major job to get at them.

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14th Mar 2014 9:29am

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2420

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

ok thanks. They do not seem to be reachable by just removing the sump.

Puma 110" SW

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14th Mar 2014 12:02pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17450

For info.

Essentially contact your dealer if this happens to you and Landrover will judge the case on its merits and may choose to pay in full, part, or not at all.

14th Mar 2014 2:28pm

redhandluke

Member Since: 02 Jun 2013
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 243

Hi Spudfan,
How are things going? Hope you've had some positive news on the Puma engine problems

Steve

25th Mar 2014 9:52pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4709

The vehicle went into the maindealer last week. The head was removed and a detailed inspection carried out.There is a lot of damage with the only option to replace the engine. The service manager has presented my case to Land Rover via Mike on the Land Rover customer service link on this site.A case will be put before the CRC (Customer Relationship Centre) when all the necessary info has been forwarded to Mike. I got an e-mail today from the service manager looking for some additional information. Anyway I will keep you posted on developments. Thanks for the interest and the good wishes.

1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

25th Mar 2014 10:14pm

LR90XS2011

Member Since: 05 Apr 2011
Location: bickenhill
Posts: 3645

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green

good luck, hope it turns out in your favour DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy

26th Mar 2014 6:36am

pouf

Member Since: 05 Aug 2010
Location: Athens
Posts: 456

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver

All my positive thought with you Thomas! www.newfoundland.gr

26th Mar 2014 8:53pm

110SEB

Member Since: 29 Jan 2009
Location: Essex, England
Posts: 1444

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

Good luck with this.

26th Mar 2014 9:19pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4709

to all for your support and concern. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

26th Mar 2014 9:21pm

MD5

Member Since: 02 May 2011
Location: Italy
Posts: 143

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

Good luck Thomas!
Any idea about the reason of the damage of your engine ?

27th Mar 2014 6:00am

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

how any cylinders are damaged?

27th Mar 2014 7:49am

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4709

Don't have all of the details to hand but some of the noise was down to piston slap. There's damage to the back of the head and cylinder damage amongst other things. The maindealer had to submit a report to the technical/engineering dept at Land Rover along with the service history of the vehicle. I've to submit a few more details, so that is where things are at the moment. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

27th Mar 2014 5:49pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4709

Good news. I got word today that Land Rover have agreed to replace the engine. I have to pay a percentage to the overall cost but I am very happy with the outcome. Don't want to go into all the details as it would not be fair on Land Rover but suffice to say that I'm much happier today than I was when I first posted this. I can more than live with the modest percentage I've to contribute to the overall cost.
If it had happened within the three year warranty period Land Rover would have stumped up 100% of the cost but I am happy to say that they have been very fair with the approach they have taken.
Many thanks to Mike on the Land Rover Customer Service link on this site who has been very helpful. Having such a direct link to Land Rover made the process so much easier.
I think the following factors went in my favour.
Regularly serviced
Relatively low milage
Good relationship with the service manager at a maindealer. He did a lot of work on this to.
I've contacted both Mike at Land Rover and the customer service manager at the maindealer to O.K. the deal. All that remains now is for the engine to be ordered and installed.
My MOT will be due in a couple of months so I'll need to get some miles on the engine before they start revving it for the smoke test. Might delay the test for a month or so
So thanks for all who followed this as wished me well. I can now take the troops off short rations

. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

31st Mar 2014 2:56pm

milesr3

Member Since: 12 Feb 2013
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 873

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Keswick Green

Well done! We had to have the entire cooling system replaced on our Freelander2 just out of warranty and thanks for a brilliant local dealer and LR Customer Services, only paid ~15% of the bill. One of the reasons why I'm still a loyal customer.

31st Mar 2014 3:04pm

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