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trooper



Member Since: 11 Mar 2014
Location: west sussex
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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Tamar Blue
Over weight vehicle
I am new to the forum and would like to raise the above issue of vehicle overweight. This seems to be particular to the Defender, with its versatility to add on goodies and/or enhancements. Over the years I have owned a number of different Defenders, which I have used mainly for expedition/holiday travel, camping using roof and ground tents. I currently own a TD5 90 with minimum bolt ons and standard suspension, max all-up weight 2400 kgs. I recently carried out an exercise to determine my vehicle's actual weight, using a local authority weigh bridge and weighing individually each item of camping equipment (for two people). The total came to 2350 kgs., leaving insufficient margin for any extras, e.g., roof rack and tent, winch, additional persons etc. I appreciate I could install heavy duty springs but this would adverseley affect my 'normal' road use. I am raising the issue for general awareness.
Post #315696 13th Mar 2014 5:55pm
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Retroanaconda



Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
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A 90 is about 1,800 kg kerb weight, so that means that you've got over half a ton of stuff on/in it!

Sounds a lot for two people's camping kit. But I guess that depends on how much stuff you take Wink
Post #315708 13th Mar 2014 7:00pm
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roel



Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
My Camel Discovery was empty 2495 kg. With 2750 kg max I couldn't carry 4 oersons.

I didn't stop me doing it. Laughing Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
Post #315722 13th Mar 2014 7:36pm
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noworries4x4



Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
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I have had to re-plate my 90 and the one before it, My kerb weight is 2,900Kgs full fuel and 100 Kg driver new plated weight is the same as 110 3050Kgs had to uprate springs ,brakes and roll bars pain in the arse heaps of paperwork. yes that's over a ton of gear in the back. If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.

Every Day 16 MY Discovery 4 Commercial Workshop and Escort Vehicle
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Post #315751 13th Mar 2014 9:00pm
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UtilityTruck



Member Since: 09 Jan 2014
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How do you physically manage to get a ton in the back of a 90??
Post #315782 13th Mar 2014 10:17pm
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gbmud



Member Since: 02 Jun 2013
Location: Sussex, UK
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2005 Defender 110 Td5 HT Belize Green
An IBC full of water? A 14" cube of gold? Easy enough I should think with the right items.

Chris
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Easily, I should think. I have no trouble getting a ton in the back of my 110 DC, but at least that has a 1 ton payload.
Post #315795 13th Mar 2014 10:58pm
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shaggydog



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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue
It is a mobile workshop for tower cranes, put a few shackles and spares in the back and bingo! 1 ton payload.
Post #315809 13th Mar 2014 11:31pm
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noworries4x4



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Chains, Jacks, Bow Shackels, Tools, Hammers, Chain Pulls ect ect I had to put it on a diet and clear out my tool box as I used to carry my Land Rover tools aswell when racing, the AF/BSF now lives at home metric only in the van (except for a couple of 9/16) just incase I drop a prop If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.

Every Day 16 MY Discovery 4 Commercial Workshop and Escort Vehicle
Weekends 07MY L322 TDV8 Vogue SE
Series 1 80" 3ltr 6cyl with overdrive
No Worries 4X4
Post #316091 14th Mar 2014 10:56pm
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trooper



Member Since: 11 Mar 2014
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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Tamar Blue
The 1800 Kg kerb weight is very close to 2000Kg when you add tank of fuel, driver and passenger and some minor goodies. leaving 400Kg for heavier goodies like roof racks/tents etc plus camping gear, extra water, fuel etc
Post #316148 15th Mar 2014 9:42am
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Retroanaconda



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The 1,800kg kerb weight includes a full tank of fuel and the driver, according to the owners manual.

But yes it will soon add up.
Post #316201 15th Mar 2014 4:07pm
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shaggydog



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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue
This all being very well and good, but is there any way to weigh your vehicle at home without going to a weigh bridge?

Would be nice to know as I know I have "loaded up" and when driving home taught "humm feel a bit heavy".
Post #316202 15th Mar 2014 4:14pm
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