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Not really sure of the context of your question, 
| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610   
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There is a project where a TDV6 engine is being shoe horned into a Defender by much more knowledgable individuals than myself. I am sure they are confident of the 'drivetrain' capabilities. By virtue of the Defender's capability and the fact that they have come with a V8 engine option (3.5 litre = 134HP and 3.9 litre = 182 HP) and the stresses and strains of off-roading I personally think the answer with regards to the extra 30BHP and 80NM of torque is obvious but to 'hazard a guess' I would say 'yes it is more than capable.' If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
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27th Apr 2010 6:55am |
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| TallPaul Member Since: 28 Aug 2007 Location: Nr Reading Posts: 270
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K9F - Bell Auto's, see video at bottom of this page:
http://www.bellautoservices.co.uk/index.php?page=news Disco 3 gone but the memory of the bills remain... XS 110 Utility maybe one day..... (did they fix the quality yet?) |
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27th Apr 2010 8:11am |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2436  
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I was wondering as some 2nd generation clutch also have failed on std vehicles. Also, I haven`t seen yet a power/torqe graph from BAS remap. Puma 110" SW
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27th Apr 2010 8:27am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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If it's graphs you're after I would imagine that they would look very similar to these....These are the Autologic ones and there is very little difference in torque or BHP between BAS and Autologic....
Power Standard Max Power 119 BHP AUTOLOGIC® Max Power 149 BHP
Torque Standard Max Torque 314Nm AUTOLOGIC® Max Torque 393Nm If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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27th Apr 2010 9:07am |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2436
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I think the max rated torque for the MT82 gearbox is 375Nm. How precise is this? Who knows. Puma 110" SW
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6th May 2010 3:21am |
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| harveyg77 Member Since: 09 Apr 2010 Location: Derby Posts: 309
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I find it hard to believe the MT82 is onlt rayed at 375Nm, that is no engineering margin.
The MT82 is effectively a 6-speed rear wheel drive (longitudinal) transit box. I would assume it is used in the:- * 200 PS/470 Nm 3.2 TDCi, * 140 PS/375 Nm 2.4 TDCi, * 115 PS/310 Nm 2.4 TDCi, The only other rear drive (longitudinal) box Ford use is a Durashift 5-speed fitted to the:- * 100PS/285Nm 2.4 TDCi, Admittedly the front drive units are lower output 2.2s but they use a transverse box. This is why I find it hard to believe LR would fit a 2.2 in the Defender as there maximum output in the transit is 140PS/350Nm and LR always derate their engines power output (though keep the torque) compared to their output in the donor vehicle's. So if they went down the 2.2 route they'd be fitting a transverse engine to a longitudinal box (I know technically the two engines are the same, but a 2.2 Puma has never been fitted longitudinally) with less torque, would seem a backwards step to me, though it may save the box and clutch 
Harvey |
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6th May 2010 6:54am |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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Yes correct!!!
Taken from Ford website: Transit 2.2 Duratorq TDCi Diesel 85 CV 2.2 Duratorq TDCi Diesel 110 CV 2.2 Duratorq TDCi Diesel 130 CV 2.2 Duratorq TDCi Diesel 140 CV / 350 Nm 2.4 Duratorq TDCi Diesel 100 CV 2.4 Duratorq TDCi Diesel 115 CV 2.4 Duratorq TDCi Diesel 140 CV / 375 Nm 2.3 Duratec Benzina 145 CV and 3.2 Duratorq TDCi Diesel 200 CV / 470 Nm Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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6th May 2010 11:00am |
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| harveyg77 Member Since: 09 Apr 2010 Location: Derby Posts: 309
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funnily enough I got it form the Ford website too
http://www.ford.co.uk/Commercialvehicles/Transit/Powertrain Harvey |
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6th May 2010 11:07am |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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Yes Harvey I modified my.... sorry  Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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6th May 2010 11:12am |
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| harveyg77 Member Since: 09 Apr 2010 Location: Derby Posts: 309
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Looking in the workshop manual and I find a statement that the maximum input torque for a MT82 is 360Nm, which is the maximum torque output of the 2.4 PUMA. Yet I cannot find any details on the getrag site about the MT82, the closest is a 6MTI520
rear Wheel drive, 6-speed, inline KEY FEATURES Max. Torque Capacity 520 Nm Weight (dry) 53 kg Installation length 682 mm Synchronization 1st and 2nd gear triple cone 3rd and 4th gear dual cone 5th and 6th gear single cone Reverse gear single cone Gear Spread Ratio 5,34 Max. Gross Vehicle Mass/Gross Trailer Mass 3100 kg/5000 kg Shifter System Topshifter Would seem to fit with a MT 82 as they both have a similar weight and output ratio and both have triple sync on 1st/2nd. Surely the MT82 can't be so weak as to only take 260Nm? The 520Nm of the 6MT1520 would be suitable for the 470Nm of the 3.2 5cyl which appears to use the same box as the rest of the rear-drive 6-speed transits. Harvey |
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