borderterrier wrote:

bell-auto-services wrote:

Of course legally I will only be selling FULL DPF removal hardware for non road use and competition use

Pete.

Principles it is.

So, Borderterrier, are you prepared for a debate about principles ?

F.e. do you have the same things to do for the taxman ? I mean to claim sth off liability (or how to name it), it´s when you buy things for work they will reduce the €€ the taxman will tear out of your pocket. Is there a pencil you said you bought for work but used it at home ? Just a very small "badness" - to small to talk about ?. Or is it like "everybody´s doing it" ? You see, there are people I remotely know doing "car sharing" on the way to work. Everybody has to drive 50miles to work one way. When the ride together each of them is only driving one day of the week. But they don´t tell the taxman. The way one of the guys told me indicates that he doesn´t feel bad about that. Would you ?
How about parking where you weren´t allowed to but the police didn´t catch you. What about having got too much exchange back when having paid something in the supermarket ?

And once again - what is your REAL concern. I doubt that you do really mind about any individual doing some of the examples above or one guy having removed a DPF from a 5-BMW some time ago. Because you don´t notice and it has no direct consequence for you. There may be far far away or microskopic consequences for you, but talking about these ... I we need so, ok .. wouldn´t help us a lot though. Are you the one who blocks the fast lane on the motorway because you´re going as fast as the speed limit allows - therefore noone is allowed to legally go faster than you. ?
OTOH doesn´t a tuning at all matter you? Raising the engines power without telling the insurance is surely illegal aswell.?

I understand that a tuning company knows about people and what people do and that people do as they like, just as much as you. Anyway, the tuner to me is s.o, helping out in technical respect. To customers demand. It´s the customer you have to focus on.

To point out: If I buy a sledge hammer and smash the screen of a jewelry store with it. Will it be me or the manufacturer of the hammer who is accused/blamed ?

borderterrier wrote:

The series 3 is not subject to the same regulations

I am talking about the principle involved in knowingly removing a part of a vehicle, which is a legal requirement for it to be used on a public road. That’s wrong wouldn’t you agree?

You will note that I said owners who remove the DPF are as irresponsible as those tuning companies that do it (not just BAS), (your sledge hammer/jewellery store analogy)

Pete was cited in particular as he made that ridiculous statement about only removing DPFs on vehicles that were not going to be used on public roads

Spookytooth wrote:

Where is this thread going. What happened to 'One life, live it'?

Who gives a monks whether someone removes or alters their CAT or DPF, they will have to deal with any consequences and they have already decided it is worth it to them, not you obviously, and thats fine also. Using less diesel sounds like a good environmentally friendly idea (Please no replies with detailed carbon footprint calculations). Given the time BAS but into this forum to go off on one against them is plain wrong and as for Rockjaw, I am a very new member and it is mainly his entertaining posts which keep me coming back time and time again so hands off him as well (perhaps I do give a monks after all)

However, to the point,I am now worried from the other end; I have done 8000 miles in my 2.2 and the DPF light has never come on, neither amber or red. Should I be worried something's gone wrong!