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| Robofarmer Member Since: 17 Mar 2010 Location: cheshire Posts: 88   
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can anyone help with the meaning of these fault codes and what i should do next?? just put tuned file on ecu last night and all went very well . today been for a drive and come back and got all these!! P0404 , P0606, P068A , P0100 , P0299 , P0234
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22nd Apr 2010 1:25pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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Robo,
Not got a lot of time at the mo, but look here for starters some of your codes are mentioned, Dgardel's download should give you the rest: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic2724.h...ault+codes http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic2554.html?highlight=codes
Hopefully sorted!   If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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22nd Apr 2010 2:07pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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have you BAS Remap? P0100: Mass or Volume Air Flow "A" Circuit (my be EGR closed?) P0234: Turbocharger/Supercharger "A" Overboost Condition (mine too) P068A: ECM/PCM Power Relay De-Energized - Too Early (start key position released too early???) P0299: Turbocharger/Supercharger "A" Underboost Condition (BAS related?????) P0404: Exhaust Gas Recirculation "A" Control Circuit Range/Performance (my be EGR closed?) P0606: Control Module Processor (????) Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition 
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22nd Apr 2010 2:17pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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Had a sixth sense you'd be along to help Dgardel.
On my second link Robo, Big Steve had exactly the same codes after a tune! Think Pete from BAS helped find a possible resolution. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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22nd Apr 2010 2:30pm |
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| Robofarmer Member Since: 17 Mar 2010 Location: cheshire Posts: 88
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yes it is a bas remap . think egr mite be f,d . so i,m just about to go and blank it off try the small hole trick in the middle of the blanking plate. and wipe all fault codes and see what happens. let you know in a hr or 2.  |
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22nd Apr 2010 4:11pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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We have (me to) the same "anomalies" we need to involve Pet of BAS....
is my idea good for all? I live too much far from Pete, my be someone of us are a little "closer than me". PUT HERE THE NAMES OF "DFENDERISH" WITH THIS problems: 1. Robofarmer 2. Dgardel (mee) 3. Big Steve 4. ............. and (who speak english better than me) can listen Pete..... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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22nd Apr 2010 4:55pm |
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If not dont worry. The Defender flashes up warnings when things are 'within the parameters' but 'higher or lower than expected' The thing is if its within the parameters why doesn't it shut up 
| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232 
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Id love to help if i can.
We need if possibile to see a car in standard form that is clear of fault codes so we have a good base to start from but i think its going to be hard as all ive seen i think have some fault or other stored 
AndrewS, do you still have means to read fault codes on your brand new 130 since yours is and always has been standard i beleive ? Pete Last edited by bell-auto-services on 22nd Apr 2010 8:59pm. Edited 2 times in total |
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22nd Apr 2010 5:45pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3708 
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Already on the case Pete
130 2293 MILES P0404 P0299 P0100 110 27830 MILES P0404 P0100 P0299 P0234 90 13968 MILES P0404 P0100 P0299 130's have feeling's as well you know  |
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22nd Apr 2010 6:13pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232
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Thanks AndrewS
To confirm these cars are standard tune untouched cars ? If so this puts a new light on the thread and some more ideas in my mind of the problems seen here and reasons why. P0100: Mass or Volume Air Flow "A" Circuit (Possibily affected by the result of EGR actuation ?) P0234: Turbocharger/Supercharger "A" Overboost Condition (As above) P068A: ECM/PCM Power Relay De-Energized - Too Early (Unsure, possibily battets current related) P0299: Turbocharger/Supercharger "A" Underboost Condition (possibily a ghost code or still EGR related) as its seen on 3 standard un tuned cars that are all showing EGR faults. P0404: Exhaust Gas Recirculation "A" Control Circuit Range/Performance (Sounds lke EGR actuation speed) P0606: Control Module Processor (unsure, possibily speed of module boot or faulty ecu.) The other problem of course is that some fault codes can misslead or be even "ghost codes"that are irelivent really. Blanking the EGR may be worth a try but this probably will not change any fault codes present, however it may help with the running of the car. Pete Last edited by bell-auto-services on 22nd Apr 2010 9:02pm. Edited 4 times in total |
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22nd Apr 2010 6:37pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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This is the reason why I "pushed" this thread.
It's beautiful to start a "work team" for help Pete to achieve the perfection on BAS remap map 
We are all happy with BAS remap but we are MORE THAN HAPPY for the Pete aftersale support and service. We must support Pete on his (great) job !!! 
I WAS an Diesel Engine Designer and Developer (now I work in a Gas & Oil Company) and I know how many passion, time, money the engine development need.... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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22nd Apr 2010 7:01pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232
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Yes i agree, its good to share knowlage.
Hopefully with the collective data we can work out some of the pumas quirks and weird faults, time dependant at my end lol. I wonder if i should get some more EGR blanks cut for some group tests. I forget the optimium hole size AndrewS found was best, may be i could get 6mm as a start and made of mild steel for ease of drilling. Pete |
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22nd Apr 2010 7:10pm |
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| Robofarmer Member Since: 17 Mar 2010 Location: cheshire Posts: 88
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Hi pete ive just copy,d mr woos blank,n plate and put a 7mm hole in she ran a little beta and no management lights come up. i cleard all fault codes before i try,d it and come back with these p1643 , u0155 , u0300 , p0404 , p0606 , p0234. hope can be off some help |
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22nd Apr 2010 8:02pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232
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Hi
In some cases the faults may still stay present and not mean anything, this is the same ov the TDV6 D3 when their EGR valves fail andare blanked which is common, luckley for the defender EGR failure does not cause a undrivable car like the D3 does. The EGR on the defender actuates dependant on throttle possition rpm, speed and some other things, but as a rule after a gear change between 1750 & 2000 rpm its re closing from its open moment from when you changed gear with no throttle if that makes sence. This is normally the worst point on the defender for lag or slow turbo spool up. of course their is many more things that can affect driveability but the puma does seem to suffer a lotfrom egr related problems amongst others like fuel rail sensors sticking etc etc. As AndrewS showed, fault codes are some times present even in the standard cars ive seen it a lot, dont worry to much about it or read to deep into it if the car drives good. knowing a fault code in some cases can make a worry for a owner when its not needed. In some cases a tune or remap does however enhance a undelined fault/glitch which is a pain in the back side lol Pete |
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22nd Apr 2010 8:09pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3708
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Yes they are all standard.
19mm Ų Chap
Click image to enlarge Due to the design of the tube that carries the exhaust gasses from the manifold to the to the EGR (see below) With the honeycomb arrangement of the holes, there are limitations to the Ų of the trial hole size. The centre hole is 7mmŲ the next circle of holes start at 11mm from the centre, so there is no difference in gas flow from a 7mmŲ to an 11mmŲ hole Anything below 11mmŲ will induce an error.
I tried 12, 14, 16mmŲ holes and they all threw up errors. Opened it out to 19mmŲ and never had any more errors. Click image to enlarge 130's have feeling's as well you know |
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22nd Apr 2010 10:02pm |
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