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| landys1 Member Since: 04 Dec 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 134   
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I run a 2012 2.2 with DPF at work - had it 2 years now, done 6K miles (yes it's a work horse round estate, rarely gets out of 3rd gear, hardly ever goes on tarmac!). DPF light has come on 3 three times so far, but to be fair after a quick blast down the road (as per handbook regen process) light goes off again. However, I do feel this is going to continue to be a probem which can only get worse.
Needless to say when buying a Puma for myself recently I went for a late model 2.4.... 1959 Series 2 Ragtop 1989 SWB Stationwagon 1998 300Tdi Hard Top and 2012 2.2 Puma Hardtop (at work) 2011 Puma 90 2.4 XS |
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28th Jan 2014 3:11pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232 
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Hi I'll answer directly with a quote to you as you seem to have not read correctly my first reply to the pm you sent me, and also seem to have missed my clarification reply here in the thread for some reason. .? As said above and in pm to you, Im looking to makeing a full CAT/DPF but in race form to allow the car to breath better, it will be fully legal and have all the needed marks and numbers to pass the MOT legally as it will be a REAL DPF/CAT. For clarity this is not illegal nor irresponsible or the company's who may sell me the DPF and CAT components are also selling things illegally and being irresponsible ? one of which may yet be Bosal who manufacture without issue aftermarket cat type exhausts amongst other components ?. http://www.bosal.co.uk/default.aspx I'm not sure what part of FULLY mot legal DPF/CAT race exhaust did I not explain correctly and miss out and forget to post about, I'm really baffled what I've missed for you not to understand as well as being upset by your strong comments that are clearly aimed towards me ? Kind regards Pete. Last edited by bell-auto-services on 28th Jan 2014 8:20pm. Edited 12 times in total |
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28th Jan 2014 7:14pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232
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28th Jan 2014 7:34pm |
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| borderterrier Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1677 
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Sorry if I hurt you.  So are you saying that you wont be doing any DPF removals until you have the legal free flow version available? |
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28th Jan 2014 8:20pm |
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| Cakey Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 468
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Still fail to understand why it needs removing. If its fuel saving , its a defender
 get a Prius
75000 miles and it has to be replaced , how long do you need ? Buy a petrol . Flashing dpf light , I need to go a bit faster , In 5th My local bus company must have had theirs supplied with built in soot output set to 11 |
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28th Jan 2014 8:32pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232
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What I'm making or talking about here in this thread is a totally fully road legal free flowing version for helping with max performance for use legally in the uk just the same as any other aftermarket replacement DPF exhaust is from a high street motor factors.
As for other market needs, just like Landrover do already with EU2 car. I'll still support the needs for, trains, airport runway cars, private plant cars , mining trucks and plant donkey engine vehicles amongst others that do not need to have it for their particular application as I have done so already. Note all which do not need a uk mot. Regards Pete. |
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28th Jan 2014 9:16pm |
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| landybehr Member Since: 17 Apr 2013 Location: -D- Posts: 173 |
Borderterrier, what is your REAL concern ?
AFAICS there is a DPF "REPLACEMENT" on the way. Approved for road going vehicles. Then there is a DPF "REMOVAL" for vehicles that won“t be moved on roads. Like the train park mentioned. If somebody decides to order a "REMOVAL" and use it on the road he/she is responsible for that. All that would lead to a debate about principles. |
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28th Jan 2014 9:16pm |
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| borderterrier Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1677
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Principles it is. |
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28th Jan 2014 9:31pm |
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| borderterrier Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1677
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It doesn't need removing on a road going Defender and nor should it be, thats my point. It's illegal to remove it. It boils down to integrity at the end of the day. It's about doing the right thing. Pete's innocent little whistle symbol after his comment is suggestive in that I read it's meaning to be that of knowing full well that vehicles whose DPF he removes will be used on the road. Or did I read that wrong? If so then my apologies, but I don't think that I did. |
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28th Jan 2014 9:41pm |
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| Cakey Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 468
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Can anybody explain why it gets removed and what are the benefits
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28th Jan 2014 9:52pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232
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All these parts and part numbers are available from your landrover parts counter. As far as im aware from what I have had in the past they will sell to anyone in any country.
LR020683 CAT £592.95+VAT WCD502340 NON CAT £173.55+VAT LR041312 DPF £1248.36+VAT LR041316 NON DPF CAT £1095.45+VAT  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Last edited by bell-auto-services on 29th Jan 2014 9:33am. Edited 3 times in total |
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28th Jan 2014 9:59pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232
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Hi Cakey General DPF removals on a wide range of models is done mainley because of the cost of repairs, when they go wrong and they will and do, they are generally priced between 1500 and 3k mark + labor for most 4x4 and large diesel cars. I personally dont offer wide range dpf removal but many many companys do offer such services for the uk car and truck markets. Ebay is a big seller of it. http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p...;_from=R40 And so is google adds, https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dpf+remo...7QaH2oHICA DPF problems are massive world wide on ALL makes and model cars. Its sad really as our car makers could do something aboutit by offering us good priced replacements but they dont, they just rip us off with stupidly priced replacements kniwing fine well we need it to keep the car legal and have it replaced of befaced with limp mode and a half powered car. This price cost of replacement and repairs as well as the constant failures and need to forced regenerations is what started the DPF removal companys doing what they do now. Regards Pete |
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28th Jan 2014 10:13pm |
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| Cakey Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 468
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So the 75000 miles to replacement is an urban myth .
Is it not a warranty part if it fails within 3 years ? Cannot see how the mot test will know unless it's a physical removal. To be honest cannot see what the fuss is . Sounds like all diesel cars have them |
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28th Jan 2014 10:34pm |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232
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Not sure on LR warranty mate apart from the Trains I dealt with which was a no warranty, BUT that was I think due to the body change etc so in fareness was a well modifyed vehicle and not a defender any more.
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28th Jan 2014 10:43pm |
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