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| Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2640  
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that must of made some noise...
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23rd Jan 2014 12:55pm |
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| excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5843  
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Maybe what you need is a removable steering wheel and a lockable boss you can put over the top, but its a round cap like a top hat that has no smooth edges? 1999 Defender TD5 110
Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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23rd Jan 2014 4:32pm |
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| TD5_dan Member Since: 24 Feb 2012 Location: Essex Posts: 449 
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I don't know where all this comes from about using the mole grips on the spline. You can't do that if you have a proper quick release boss as it is effectively a flat face? Only way to do it would be strip the quick release boss down to get to the original steering wheel spline. Personally if I'm hearing a dislock can be removed in 10 seconds then can't see how anyone can be sure a steering lock is anymore secure than a quick release steering wheel. I can't see the getaway being as quick when steering with a pair of mole grips either not something I would like to try. I quite the look of the x eng gear stick lock has anyone got one of them they use? 2001 TD5 110 County Station Wagon - sold 1970 Series 2A Station Wagon 1970 Series 2A hard top 1960 Series 2 1972 Series 3 |
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23rd Jan 2014 4:54pm |
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| smb Member Since: 15 Jan 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1232 
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Unless I am completely naive in this to me this looks like more than an opportunist thief as they seem very prepared plus they took a big risk in going through a stone wall. They obviously had worked out the exit points beforehand.
I had a quick release boss until someone showed me how easy it was to get past. So I bought a Disklok thinking it would be better. Unfortunately, Diskloks are built to generic sizes which give the looseness. IMHO With the modifications to the rear, hinge and internal ring, Disklok is still the best way to go (for the steering wheel bit) to make it awkward for the scum. One of the posts on the other forum also gave some good parking tips i.e., parked with steering on full lock which is certainly what I will be doing from now. |
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23rd Jan 2014 5:07pm |
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| Tiger Member Since: 06 Jul 2012 Location: Wales Posts: 2265
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I think the X-eng ignition barrel shroud is a must fit item really
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23rd Jan 2014 5:18pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Yeah, I've got one and it feels very solid. It's not been tested in anger of course, but it's a pleasantly reassuring visible deterrent.  Click image to enlarge Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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23rd Jan 2014 7:15pm |
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| DisklokUK Member Since: 24 Jan 2014 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1
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Hi all,
A customer has made us aware of this thread. Firstly, this is an awful story but we would like to pass our opinion regarding the concerns around the Disklok. First point to note is that the Disklok is extremely well designed. It is very clear that this particular theft was well planned and from the remains of the Disklok, a relatively long time period was available to the culprits without being interrupted. Secondly, there is NO evidence the Disklok has been removed at all. In fact, it looks like the Disklok survived their initial attacks leaving them with no alternative but to drive through the wall and across a field. Finally, there are no weak parts on the Disklok, proven by passing the Sold Secure and Thatcham attack tests withstanding a minimum attack time of 5 minutes. It is worth noting that these tests are carried out with no noise limits and all types of common hand tools used. Year after year the Disklok won the Auto-express security awards against all other mechanical devises with the very best attack experts. We have seen a great deal of speculation over the past 20 years regarding removing the Disklok with no real evidence to back this up. Like wise, we receive many success stories of vehicles saved by the Disklok from Police forces all over the country. Don't discount the deterrent value of the product either...how many vehicles have not been attacked because of the Disklok being fitted?! Disklok remains the ultimate mechanical steering wheel devise available anywhere in the world, however in some circumstances it is worth while having multiple forms of protection to increase your odds against potential thieves. If anybody has any concerns we would welcome you to contact us directly to discuss further. |
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24th Jan 2014 12:12pm |
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| Tiger Member Since: 06 Jul 2012 Location: Wales Posts: 2265
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Agreed they are a great bit of security and a brilliant design and without a doubt the best on the market but you could make the product a bit better by addressing the two issues highlighted.
If you doubt this send me one and I'll show you how it's done 
Didn't Autoexpress do it in 117secs? Surely you must have seen the test? That's under 2mins Like I say it's the best on the market and I wouldn't be without mine so I'm an advocate of the product but a bit of a beef up might be due 
I'd even buy a new one if you did. |
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24th Jan 2014 12:24pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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Hope I'm not straying too far
 but I've got the Metro Stoplock Ultima - took 119 seconds in that test but only got 4 stars - any idea why?
It's good to know these weak points - you can bet the serious thieves do already, so keeping it hush-hush on here might just leave us more at risk  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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24th Jan 2014 12:40pm |
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| Tiger Member Since: 06 Jul 2012 Location: Wales Posts: 2265
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I think the test was to beat the lock. Which isn't really relevant.
The steering wheel is the weakest link in the whole set up and that lock doesn't cover the entire wheel. If I wanted it off I wouldn't attack the lock but simply cut the steering wheel with bolt croppers and split the wheel to remove the lock. It's only rubber with a thin wire core after all. The Disklok covers the entire wheel so doesn't have this weakness |
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24th Jan 2014 12:45pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Aha! Cheers
I guess the Raid/Momo wheels are just as weak 
p.s. but I guess cutting a steering wheel up etc. would still attract attention under most conditions. If the vehicle is parked out of sight/earshot and they've got 10 minutes, you're screwed in any event 
Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... Last edited by ZeDefender on 24th Jan 2014 1:01pm. Edited 2 times in total |
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24th Jan 2014 12:49pm |
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| Tiger Member Since: 06 Jul 2012 Location: Wales Posts: 2265
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Haven't tried but I imagine even small bolt croppers would go through a steering wheel like knife through hot butter.
They don't make much noise either |
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24th Jan 2014 1:00pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Just re-read the article and it says steering wheel attack was also considered. Also that the DiskLok was destroyed quietly whilst the Metro made a lot of noise. Now I'm feeling more confident - cheers
Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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24th Jan 2014 1:01pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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They did indeed....Do the test that is, on several locking methods and their associated products.... http://www.ovat.be/Artikels/Steering%20Loc...xpress.pdf Some interesting posts reference security in this thread, especially by Partymonkey and the bit about the OEM alarm. http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic25285.html?highlight=approach If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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24th Jan 2014 1:06pm |
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