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dgardel



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Big, very big MY2014 Mod
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Strange. Puma 2.2 for 2014 went from 122 bhp to 117 bhp for reason of compliance with EU5 emission norms. But the Puma 2.2 from day 1 has been compliant with EU5 emission norms. Rolling Eyes You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #278746 2nd Nov 2013 9:39am
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me@td5.org



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And why invest in making something compliant with a regulation if you don't intend to sell it for much longer, not worth the investment, unless it was an external supplier factor or the intention is to keep things going longer than we think www.td5.org
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bell-auto-services



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Ill soon whip that into shape lol, loose 5bhp, not in my book.... Mr. Green
Post #278757 2nd Nov 2013 10:19am
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Can't remember exact details but I think despite peak power dropping, think torque has stayed same and over a wider range. Peak power revs has also come down so hopefully just as much useable power? Cheers, David
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Post #278758 2nd Nov 2013 10:22am
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Birdy



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It’s most probably just a different calculation/measuring of bhp. EU harmonisation is more than anything getting countries and manufacturers to use the same criteria - not so much “square bananas” as a standard measurement for bananas so that like can be compared with like.

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RobKeay



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Sounds like Pete will need a bigger workshop.
Post #278783 2nd Nov 2013 12:54pm
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familymad



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bell-auto-services wrote:
Ill soon whip that into shape lol, loose 5bhp, not in my book.... Mr. Green


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They really are stabbling the old truck in the back on its way out aren't they? Rolling Eyes

They'll be fitting leasf springs to it soon too.
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any more news on that new remote and is that a definate Thumbs Up CSK Automotive
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bell-auto-services



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It's very much like they did with the D4. It started off as 600nm and 245bhp. They then changed it to the very same 600nm but gave it 255bhp.

Torque delivery even though the same max power was slightly different on the two models, as Landrover had told us the torque on the new one starts 200rpm sooner it may also finish 200rpm later which will effect the final max bhp figure.

Smoke and mirrors really tbh and nothing to worry about as its only figures, I think the drivability won't be any less as it has a fraction less bhp and as a calculated wheel figure loss its very minimal.

Either way its going to get a PROPPER whipping from me that will blow all the factory standard figures apart "again" hehe. I'll have one on the Dyno in early December if not before time pending Whistle

Killer, more info should be available on Topix site in the next few weeks.


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Post #278876 2nd Nov 2013 6:07pm
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Is the new remote anything special? looks like it's just the plain old 10AS controlled lock/unlock unit, but in a new wrapper.
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Cheers Pete Thumbs Up Will keep checking it out Mr. Green Just placed order for 2014 90 so would be nice if there are some worthwhile changes Laughing That nice new bonnet badge looks good Whistle Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Thats first thing to come off i think Thumbs Up CSK Automotive
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diesel_jim wrote:
Is the new remote anything special? looks like it's just the plain old 10AS controlled lock/unlock unit, but in a new wrapper.


Very similar to the Evoque key. If the metal cover contains an emergency key we are in for a treat..keyless. LR could be fitting a different steering lock and removing the ignition key.

Doubt it does though! www.td5.org
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emergency key = a spoon handle for the defender door lock Rolling with laughter
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