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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17351   
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The clutch slave cylinder is in the bellhousing (clutch housing, between engine and gearbox), and accessing it involves removing the gearbox, which isn't actually as difficult as it sounds provided that suitable (ie main dealer) lifting and access equipment is avaiable.
My first suspicion from your description and location is that it is heat related. 5th gear on the MT82 box is direct, whilst 6th is an overdrive, and the box will generate more heat running in 6th than 5th. I suppose that it is just possible that the heat is causing moisture in the clutch fluid to boil, thus losing the pedal, but even so I would expect you to be able to change gear without using the clutch. From the description you have given, it sounds as though the gear lever becomes immobile (so possibly the lever, selectors or dog clutches themselves are seizing) rather than it simply being a clutch related problem. Not much help, I'm afraid! Perhaps someone else will chip in with some ideas. |
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9th Sep 2013 1:41pm |
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| dilukabey Member Since: 17 May 2011 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 173 
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May be your clutch is worn off or check the quality/ level of gear box oil.
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9th Sep 2013 2:11pm |
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| dilukabey Member Since: 17 May 2011 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 173
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May be your clutch is worn off or check the quality/ level of gear box oil.
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9th Sep 2013 2:12pm |
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| dilukabey Member Since: 17 May 2011 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 173
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May be your clutch is worn off or check the quality/ level of gear box oil.
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9th Sep 2013 2:21pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4646 
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If the gearbox has been filled to the level plug it is overfull. This has been stated to cause overheating in the gearbox. Whether this would cause your problem or not is not clear.The gearbox should have 2.4l of the correct oil from the factory and 2.2 l after a service drain and refill. You can access the filler plug by removing the centre tray or cubby box then the inspection plate. If the gearbox is full to the level of the filler plug it has too much gearbox oil in it. To remedy this, just drain it and put in 2.2l. I refilled mine via the inspection plate using a length of hose and a funnel. You could try the above to see if that helps.Just make sure it has the correct spec oil in the gearbox.
I used Total Transmission Syn FE 75w90 in the gearbox in my 2008 Puma and it runs beautifully. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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9th Sep 2013 9:56pm |
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| robharvey Member Since: 14 Dec 2009 Location: Durban Posts: 86  
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Mark, which dealer?
Have you tried Paul Close at The Centre? 031-3378521, he's way more clued up on Defenders than the dealers are. |
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10th Sep 2013 9:07am |
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| Mark-Eran Member Since: 11 Dec 2011 Location: Durban Posts: 8
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Hi Rob,
Don't worry I don't use Landy dealers anymore : far too expensive and often not as knowledgeable than a few specialised individuals around. Furthermore my 2008 Puma is now out of guarantee. I use a very good guy in Pinetown : his name is Russell and available on 0723232013 - For TD5 he is the best guy around and is on a learning curve with the Puma! But I trust him and I suppose this is nowadays the most important. |
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10th Sep 2013 9:25am |
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| RafaBr Member Since: 29 Oct 2013 Location: Curitiba Posts: 3 
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Hi Mark,
Did you fixed this issue with the Clutch? I'm having the same problems after a long period in 6th gear (1 hour in hot conditions). After some pumps it works normally. Regards Rafael |
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29th Oct 2013 7:37am |
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| Mark-Eran Member Since: 11 Dec 2011 Location: Durban Posts: 8
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Hi Rafael,
Impossible to say yet. I have replaced the master clutch cylinder (a telltale sign was that the DOT4 clutch was dirty probably due to the breakdown of its seals) and also bleeded and replaced the clutch fluid) This was the easiest and cheapest part as the replacement of the slave cylinder would require a drop of the gearbox, change of seals... a more involved and costly job. Until now I have not had the opportunity to go for a long drive. I believe that it is definitely connected to high temperature (my driver seat metal fixations and hand break become extremely hot during long drives taking place in hot weather) Some time ago I had the opportunity to drive 600 km by cool weather = no problem! The same return drive by hot weather brought a loss of clutch, the time to stop over, wait for the engine temperature to cool down a bit, pump a few times the clutch pedal and everything was fine again... But this was before I changed the master clutch cylinder and renewed the DOT4 fluid. So let's hope that the problem was connected to the master clutch cylinder seals breakdown... All the Best Mark |
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29th Oct 2013 10:13am |
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