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Andreas Schuback



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FIRE EXTINGUISHER
Hi Guys, any photo's of fire extinguishers mounted behind the cubby and what method used to mount said?, 90 xs with bulkhead bar.
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wyvern



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I've got 2 in the 110, one behind the cubby as shown and on by the back door....
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LandRoverAnorak



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I put mine on the back door (which I appreciate isn't what you asked Mr. Green )


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I put mine in the passenger seat footwell on the front face of the seat box. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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Nobby



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Not able to take a picture at present, my extinguisher is tie wrapped to the right hand bulkhead bar behind driver. _______________________________
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Guys, just be very aware that if it breaks loose in an accident you have something hurtling towards the back of your head that will do lots of damage. I have seen some very poorly fitted brackets (plastic ties etc)

Give this some consideration when placing it. Paul Redding
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On the rear of the cubby box.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Post #274138 15th Oct 2013 9:42pm
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leeds



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A typical fire extinguisher in a 4 x 4 weighs between 2-4 kg. Yes in the event of an accident a fire extinguisher breaking loose could prove lethal.


We carry our fire extinguishers mounted on the front of the seat boxes. Easy to grab hold of when outside of the vehicle. Also it is very difficult to get the extinguisher if is buried under a load of gear, which might occur if attach to places like back of cubby boxes.


The weight of the extinguishers has to be well supported and you need to be able to release them quickly. If using the wire frame consider using a velcro strap as well. Also consider the use of quick fist rubber clamps.

Must admit I am not personally impressed with the plastic straps with a plastic overcentre clamps for fixing extinguishers in a 4x4. On a few grounds, cracking of the strap where clamp is and possible of fastening hea being pulled through the strap in the event of an accident.


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mark_d



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A fire protection specialist recently advised against fitting a powder fire extinguisher because if they accidentally go off in the cab it will cause a white out (vision) and potentially a black out (through breathing difficulties). Our local taxis are not permitted to carry them for this reason and any vehicle transporting them comercially must have a fixed bulkhead separating them from the driver.
He was willing to sell me powder as private cars don't have the same regulations, but offered a foam extinguisher as an alternative.
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bpman



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Mine fitted as standard in front of seat box in passenger foot well, i fitted an additional in rear next to seats 6-7
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wyvern



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Mark D .. ''He was willing to sell me powder as private cars don't have the same regulations, but offered a foam extinguisher as an alternative.''

Hi Mark,
not sure of the laws in Ireland on this but the dry powder is the indusrty standard for motor use due to its wide range of fire fighting ability - it works on all types of fires (ABC) normaly found in motors - the most common ones being electrical and solids, where as the foam is mostly used for liquid fires. (AB)

Taxi or minicab (private hire vehicles): 1kg dry powder ABC type accredited to EN3 by BSI and kitemarked (M920) fire extinguisher.
Vans and small commerical vehicles: 2kg ABC dry powder to EN3 (M921) vehicle fire extinguisher.

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Post #274213 16th Oct 2013 11:13am
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mark_d



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Hi Wyvern,

It is only N.Ireland I was referring to and I wasn't suggesting any laws were being broken.It's just something worth considering when choosing to fit an extinguisher. It may be exactly when you need it to be your friend that it becomes your worst enemy.

I think NI are just ahead of the curve in making the sensible change to foam. I can see their logic.

Dry powder is not effective at preventing re-ignition of flammable liquids (often found in cars) where as foam will.
Cars don't require powder for electrical fires because there is no risk of electric shock from a 12v battery.
Powder is generally not recommended for confined spaces and can cause death by asphyxiation, foam doesn't have these problems.
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Nobby



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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Santorini Black
Boringoldgit wrote:
Guys, just be very aware that if it breaks loose in an accident you have something hurtling towards the back of your head that will do lots of damage. I have seen some very poorly fitted brackets (plastic ties etc)

Give this some consideration when placing it.

Just clarify, the frame is fitted with metal tie wraps, used for industrial purposes and fitted with the correct tool. The extinguisher is then fitted into its purpose built holder. Very Happy _______________________________
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