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zone30



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Belgium 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Nara Bronze
Torques an nut sizes
What are the most common torques and nut sizes on a defender (metric if possible), that you needed when working on your car?

I want to buy a torque wrench set but as they are quite expensive I want a set I can do the most with.
Post #263947 5th Sep 2013 12:04pm
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K9F



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I have two Norbar torque wrenches 20-100nm and 60-300nm with a selection of adaptor head sizes. I find these suit all my needs.
All you then need is a half-decent socket set with all the standard 'usual suspects' in. If it's a specialist job I research before and pop out and buy the socket I need to avoid trawling through the workshop manual and unecessary expenditure buying something I may never use.

https://www.google.co.uk/#q=norbar+torque+wrench If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #263953 5th Sep 2013 12:40pm
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MartinK



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I had to buy a few extras on top of the "standard" range of sizes...

27mm (unlikely to be in a "standard" socket set) is really useful for the wheel nuts, and IIRC the oil filter....

And a few TORX bits ... a torx T50 for the gearbox oil change... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
Post #263965 5th Sep 2013 1:42pm
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jimbob7



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Do you mean socket wrench set??
I have Sealey,somethin similar to this
http://toolstoday.co.uk/product/50547/seal...c?cat=2168

Also one of these for torx, hex,etc.
http://toolstoday.co.uk/product/5823/seale...e?cat=2168

If your actually after a torque wrench then most 1/2 drive's are rated between 28-210NM.
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/...-040212720

Less popular tools are 52 mm box spanner or you can buy proper impact sockets off the bay for around £15
also NEED a couple of 12 point sockets for brake calipers,etc (13mm I think,also a 1000mm long steel pipe to "extend" your breaker bar in order for you to remove said caliper bolts Whistle ),personally I prefer 6 point sockets for everything else and a heavy,heavy duty circlip removal tool.
Post #264026 5th Sep 2013 6:20pm
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ARC99



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue
I only know of three torque setting for nuts and bolts on land rovers

Tight
very tight
Censored tight.


Very Happy Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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smb



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You've missed the fourth one. The one just before it snaps......although that could be applicable to the first three Rolling with laughter
Post #264047 5th Sep 2013 7:30pm
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SteveG



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MartinK wrote:
I had to buy a few extras on top of the "standard" range of sizes...

27mm (unlikely to be in a "standard" socket set) is really useful for the wheel nuts, and IIRC the oil filter....

And a few TORX bits ... a torx T50 for the gearbox oil change...


Also 9/16 for propshaft, ideally propshaft tool. 52mm for hub nut. Long sockets for 19mm, 17mm and 13mm normally come in useful too if they are not in your socket set
Post #264130 5th Sep 2013 9:14pm
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Cuthbert



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K9F wrote:
I have two Norbar torque wrenches 20-100nm and 60-300nm with a selection of adaptor head sizes. I find these suit all my needs.
All you then need is a half-decent socket set with all the standard 'usual suspects' in. If it's a specialist job I research before and pop out and buy the socket I need to avoid trawling through the workshop manual and unecessary expenditure buying something I may never use.

https://www.google.co.uk/#q=norbar+torque+wrench


About to order some new torque wrenches - do you still stand behind Norbar (made in the UK and with a historical link to Rolls Royce WWII engines) and the two ranges you specify?

Don't want to buy and then regret that the above ranges (20 - 100Nm & 60 - 300Nm) aren't enough at the top end?
Post #372082 16th Nov 2014 9:38pm
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K9F



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I was in the military and Norbar wrenches are what they used and the weapon of choice. I have had these two torque wrenches for quite a long time. With the purchase of my Defender which was only four months old when I bought it the usage of the torque wrenches fell dramatically as my previous vehicles were 'sheds.' They have suited all my needs ranging from the smaller rocker cover type jobs to larger suspension jobs with higher torque settings.
Dependant on what your plans are you will have everything covered up to 300nM. Above that it would I imagine possibly be a one off job and the cost of a larger torque wrench for that one job would not justify the purchase. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #372086 16th Nov 2014 10:07pm
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Cuthbert



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Thank you K9F - appreciate you sharing your thoughts. I've always had an intense dislike of working with cheap tools and seen a few incidents where tools break or cause other damage. That an a previous Engineering Director who came from a precision engineering background (as opposed to those who work to tolerances of plus or minus 50mm) and didn't rate anyone who didn't have a pride in their job (or their tools). I also like to support British businesses where they are still manufacturing quality products in the face of global competition and the drive to produce cheap garbage for folk that neither know or care what they are purchasing.
Post #372092 16th Nov 2014 10:54pm
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munch90



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I got a few norbar and a few britool torque wrenches both been good cant really tell them apart , but britool are bit stronger made , but both do they job ok
Post #372093 16th Nov 2014 11:00pm
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Cupboard



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We've got Britool ones and they're fine.

Trying to find a replacement square drive noggin for one (I think it was the 1/2") recently was a bit of a PITA but we got one in the end.

Quite how anyone managed to apply so much torque to a torque wrench they broke it is beyond me.
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gilarion



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Don't forget the 10mm socket loads of 10mm bolts on a Land Rover
Post #372501 18th Nov 2014 4:33pm
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Cuthbert



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Following K9F's recommendation I've bought a Norbar Torque Wrench ........
Post #372615 18th Nov 2014 10:55pm
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