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shaggydog



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Sheds. To Build or Buy?
Every man has his shed.

Mine is falling apart and is not secure as I found out to my despair having my welder wander off…

The question is, to build or to buy?

I’m thinking of something substantial so I can get my workbench in (but keep tools in the workshop in cabinets) and putting in a parts washer and grit blaster so the shed will have to be substantial and secure, but not too heavy duty that I need planning permission and a mortgage on it.

Still thinking wooden framed as to make a girder framed one would be much easier but much more expensive.

Does anyone have any experience or advice to offer?
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GUM97



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I'd buy, but that depends on how much time/skill you've got available! Thumbs Up

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Lou Sparts



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What about an old 20ft shipping container,that would be secure ! 2005 Td5 90 XS

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pjb



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Lou Sparts wrote:
What about an old 20ft shipping container,that would be secure !


Very cheap & when clad can blend in quite well & easy to put windows in Thumbs Up

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appaloosadude



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I built a 6x9 shed in a weekend. I have no carpentry skills, but managed it with an electric mitre saw, circular saw, and cordless drill. It took longer to prepare a good base!

I sort of cheated, I built a basic 'box' out of 4x2, on a ply floor, raised off the base with treated timbers every 2'.
I then used heavy duty featheredge fencing panels, turned 90 degrees with the capping piece removed and screwed to the 'box'.

Roof took some thought, just a case of getting the angles and overhangs right. Pics to follow. The Health and safety freaks will have a melt down!
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shaggydog



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Have contemplated the container route, but can’t get crane access to the back of the house…

The Timber Barn idea I would love but don’t have that much money or space currently.

I have the skill to build from scratch and friends who have equipment I may need.

I’m wandering if it is cheaper to build from scratch exactly what you want or to adapt a kit?
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shaggydog



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Nidge wrote:
The Ultimate Shed/Garage

- http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55006/

N.


Dude, my head just exploded with the amount of awesome in that post.

I think realy what I need is more space.

But hot damn thats a nice place to work.
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leeds



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According to Barbara my shed is 1200 square feet.

That is not big enough!

Basically the ideal mam's shed is bigger then what he has.

Does that sound familiar?

brendan
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richuk



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Use T&G stock wall. Doesn't cost the earth and can provide a very substantial structure with little or no framing given a bit of thought. Rich

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appaloosadude



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The one thing I'd check and make better is the door frame. Mine is too weak, and twists when one door is opened.

You get the idea, anyway.

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JWL



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As someone who used to make a living out of building these type of things from scratch there are some companies that can supply and build you a shed that is everything you need for pretty much what it would cost in materials plus they would only be on your property for a short day. If you have the skills it is quite rewarding to build your own but there will allways be things that you will think " Censored , wish I'd done that differently" and as they build them frequently they know all the little things to make the job go well and smoothly. The odd things like if you put foam insulation in it can react with the pvc insulation on electric cables so they need to be kept apart(conduit).
Personally I would make a definate list of requirements, specifications and exactly what you want to do in the shed. Then look around at what's commercially available and at what price as well as take in reccomendations from others. There are a number of timber building companies that will build you what you want, it's more a matter of how much you want to pay. As a rough guide to build a 20'x10' shed, with 6' at the eaves(lowest point inside), 2" framing, clad in shiplap is not going to give you much change from £12/1300 then there's the sorting out of the base area, doesn't allways need to be concrete if you put a floor in the shed.
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appaloosadude



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Mine cost <£300 BTW. friends in the right places.
Post #259509 17th Aug 2013 10:35pm
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jimbob7



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I built my own 14 years ago for just over £100,it's 20 times better than anything you can buy for from a company (within reason).Some scrote tried getting in and failed,preserved it when it went up not touched it since, apart from new asphalt roof earlier this year.
Chop saw, 750w reversible drill (for easily driving in big,big screws,lol),could even rent an eleky hammer Bow down. Big box of screw's an nails,job done. You can even get free plans online,
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Lou Sparts wrote:
What about an old 20ft shipping container,that would be secure !


Anyone know of a cheap, legit source of old shipping containers? Steve.
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