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RED-DOT



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My Puma bonnet hits the rear corners of the wing WITHOUT chequer plate wingtops... i bought a new 1999 TD5 and fitted chequer plate to the wings, sills, corners and a Lara Croft panel behind the doors and took my time and drilled and painted holes and used stainless countersunk bolts as supplied.
The car had a small drive off bump to the side and when i removed the CP the holes were almost as big as the 10mm nuts securing them. No matter how you preserve the drilled areas the bolts will through time cause corrosion and to be honest i wouldn't touch a CP Defender with a barge pole.
My local LR outlet will not retail a CP Defender over 3 years old. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..

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Post #25178 26th Feb 2010 9:08am
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MuddyMarky



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In my opinion, if L/R sell chequer plate, they can't really get funny about taking a car in as px etc if someones bought the cp from them and fitted it. I assume your local dealer won't sell or fit the kit at all then? Mark
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Post #25191 26th Feb 2010 10:49am
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RED-DOT



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Actually they do fit it but it is never fitted with the stainless bolts but pop-rivets, hell knows what state the underside must be in. That is why i took a day to do my TD5 and not the hour pop-rivets would take. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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RED-DOT wrote:
Actually they do fit it but it is never fitted with the stainless bolts but pop-rivets, hell knows what state the underside must be in. That is why i took a day to do my TD5 and not the hour pop-rivets would take.


Strange - I have LR supplied and fitted CP and it is attached wiith rivnuts and countersunk SS bolts.

Maybe my dealer had a bad day Laughing

Bob
Post #25226 26th Feb 2010 4:46pm
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MuddyMarky



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I've never seen dealer fitted kit using pop-rivets either......The genuine L/R kits that I've seen/am looking at come complete with the L/R rivnut tool & all other fittings complete. I doubt the dealers would sling these parts in the skip to use pop-rivets just to save time.


As a side note (and NOT to cause trouble/argument etc etc!!) I've noticed there are certain members on here that are really down on Land Rover and everything Land Rover do....I'm sitting here wondering why they've actually got one? Rolling Eyes ..... maybe it's just me... Mark
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Post #25247 26th Feb 2010 7:18pm
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merebrowpaul



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hear hear well said mark Bow down
Post #25249 26th Feb 2010 7:46pm
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MrFlips



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Have you had a quote back yet Mark? I'm assuming you still can't buy directly from them? (I'd much rather buy direct than go through another company). Peter
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Post #25253 26th Feb 2010 9:06pm
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ti-fat-man



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i called patriot today...i could have called in their only 1.5 miles away... Shocked

puma wing tops (short as OEM no arial hole) 3mm black ~ £50 pair

wing top gaskets ~ £10 pair

110 rear wing panels 3mm black ~ £27

stainless bolts likley a couple quid more

seems resonable to me....
Post #25264 26th Feb 2010 10:43pm
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MuddyMarky



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No replies from anyone yet Sad Little disappointing, really. No worries, I'll get it sorted. Thanks for the info ti-fat-man, much appreciated. Thumbs Up Mark
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Post #25265 26th Feb 2010 10:48pm
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The Boy



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Stick with patriot mate or just get the LR ones with the gasket. i have had both and I cant fault either. The is a block on ebay who has sets of lr every now and agian. He is located in Northants, worth checking
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Glynparry25



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MuddyMarky wrote:
No replies from anyone yet Sad Little disappointing, really. No worries, I'll get it sorted. Thanks for the info ti-fat-man, much appreciated. Thumbs Up


Just spoke to them (staying here right now). They can't supply direct. You will need to go through one of their retailers......L/R Genuine items......you don't need to look further than Mammouth *Wink, wink, nudge, nudge* Whistle

Glyn Sheep
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K9F



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RED-DOT wrote:
Actually they do fit it but it is never fitted with the stainless bolts but pop-rivets,


What a 'throw away' comment and misguided too. TH Whites near Swindon must have Censored up then as when mine went in for chequerplate fitting, half a day and £500 later mine came back complete with entire stainless fittings and not a pop rivet in sight! If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #25279 27th Feb 2010 9:17am
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RED-DOT



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Morrisons in Stirling used to use pop rivets, that is why i fitted them myself with the stainless bolts and nuts and after 3 years the corrosion enlarged the drill holes to 8-10mm and that was after painting holes. I believe they no longer use pops. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
Post #25288 27th Feb 2010 12:23pm
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discocuzzy



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Thats because they are tight jocks and probably saving up all the stainless fittings to take to the scrap merchants to sell for a bottle of meths.

Red dot...ive never heard so much tosh in my life re holes enlarging...my mates got a C reg 90 and has had the wing tops done from new and still perfect. You cannot teach stupid people to do clever things
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RED-DOT



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My 3 year old Defender had holes the size of the stainless lock nuts.... shame you were not there to see..... I suppose the English weather is not as cold as demand the use of salt on the roads?
SOFTIES!!! 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
Post #25368 28th Feb 2010 9:34am
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