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Evsy



Member Since: 03 Jul 2013
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Bloody Td5 oil filter!
Guys the situation is currently FUBAR! I have been struggling for 6 hours to remove the oil filter and it has not budged an inch! I've used a strap wrench as specified in the manual, all this has done is crush the filter. I've even gone down the road of hammer and screw driver and still nope! I've tried anti clock wise and clockwise and there is sod all movement on the filter! Any one with any tips would be greatly appreciated! When half a job turns into a saga!
Post #250550 10th Jul 2013 6:00pm
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K9F



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If you strip it down and rip off the excess torn filter you may be able to collapse the threaded portion in on itself with the use of a decent small strong screwdriver and careful application of force. Do not use a hammer. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #250552 10th Jul 2013 6:44pm
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jimbob7



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On some Td5's (MINE!) you have to remove the oil pipe that goes from the turbo to the engine block,you could still unscrew the filter tho, just couldn't get the filter off (or on). And it is definitely anti-clockwise to remove it,can't see why you can't at least get it loose.
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Lou Sparts



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A trick i have used with great effect is to use a sheet of coarse wet and dry paper wrapped around the filter with the abrasive side innermost this gives great grip for either your hands or a strap wrench.
when using a strap wrench try to keep it towards the top of the filter this helps to stop the filter crushing in.
Hope this helps. 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
Post #250563 10th Jul 2013 7:13pm
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Evsy



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Lou Sparts wrote:
A trick i have used with great effect is to use a sheet of coarse wet and dry paper wrapped around the filter with the abrasive side innermost this gives great grip for either your hands or a strap wrench.
when using a strap wrench try to keep it towards the top of the filter this helps to stop the filter crushing in.
Hope this helps.


Thanks is for the tip with the wet and dry, I'll give it a go. unfortunaly the filter has started to buckle despite trying to keep the strap wrench as high up on the filter as possible. The screw dirver and hammer technique was a last ditch effort and even that failed. Not helped by the fact access is so poor! I'm sinking a few tinny's in the last of the evenings warmth and left poor Pam on the blocks for the night. Hopefully a new day and fresh eyes aswell as more liberal application of strength will sort it! Any other tips would be greatly appreciated!
Post #250566 10th Jul 2013 7:21pm
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taffrican



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Try and fit a large jubilee clip around the filter (or join a couple of smaller ones) it might give you better purchase or you can hit the heads of the jubilee clip with punch and hammer to break the seal?? worth a try Rolling Eyes Optimists say the glass is half full..
Pessimists say the glass is half empty..
Engineers say the glass is twice the size it needs to be!
Post #250583 10th Jul 2013 8:25pm
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Phoenix90



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Have always found oil filter pliers to be the easiest way to shift a filter that is stuck on. Can get more purchase than a strap or chain wrench.

The outside of the filters do sometimes collapse, but with the pliers at least you just crush down until it goes firm.

Filter Pliers in Halfords
Post #250599 10th Jul 2013 8:55pm
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gbmud



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Phoenix90 wrote:
Have always found oil filter pliers to be the easiest way to shift a filter that is stuck on.


Have you seen where the oil filter on a Td5 is located? Most of the issue is with decent access! LR, for some reason, thought they should fit it right up behind the turbo under the exhaust manifold!

Chris
Post #250672 11th Jul 2013 7:27am
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AlanH



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Seems those that assembled Td5s took great pleasure in tightening these filters up as much as poss when they had them on a bench with plenty of access and some that serviced afterwards did too by using a strap to tighten.
A mate of mine made a little device from stainless tube a bit bigger than the filter diameter and just wide enough to slip under the filter and welded a nut on it, then fashioned a thumb screw which was then tightened hard onto the filter. Worked a treat for my first service and then because the replacement filter wasn't so tight the job was easy.
Of course that doesn't help you but it's thought for the future.
AlanH.
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Evsy



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Right I'm at my wits end! I've spent money on 4 different filter removal tools and it still won't budge. I want to try and eliminate the simple stuff, is the filter counter clock wise to release as I've been told previous? I haven't got a clue what to do next. I've tried everything, filter strap, pliers, hammer and screw driver and praying. It's now been 8 hours of blood sweat and tears adding on this mornings work! Had a guts full! HELP!
Post #250707 11th Jul 2013 9:34am
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Lou Sparts



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Might be worth a phone call to your local dealer and ask to speak to the workshop manager or a technician they must have had the same problem before.
Part of the problem is the fact that they only need doing every third oil change so have plenty of time to get themselves stuck on,another good reason to change it more often.
I,d pop round and give you a hand but it,s a bit of a drive from here. 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
Post #250709 11th Jul 2013 9:44am
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Evsy



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Lou Sparts wrote:
Might be worth a phone call to your local dealer and ask to speak to the workshop manager or a technician they must have had the same problem before.
Part of the problem is the fact that they only need doing every third oil change so have plenty of time to get themselves stuck on,another good reason to change it more often.
I,d pop round and give you a hand but it,s a bit of a drive from here.


Haha yeah it's a bit. Think ill take your advice on this one and give a dealer a call and see what they say. Cheers man.
Post #250711 11th Jul 2013 9:52am
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gbmud



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Like most things, an oil filter turns anti clockwise to release - lefty loosey, righty tighty. Of course, when looking at the Td5 oil filter you are looking at it from the top so, when viewed from above it actually has to rotate clockwise or right. So, unless you are under the engine looking up, turn the filter to that the side nearest the cars left front wheel moves forwards, this will unscrew it.

Chris
Post #250729 11th Jul 2013 10:38am
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Evsy



Member Since: 03 Jul 2013
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It's off! Hurah! And a new entry in the Guinness book of records for the worlds longest oil and filter change! Thanks for all your tips and ideas. The one that worked was removing the oil drain pipe from the turbo to allow more room bellow the filter, also gives more swing space for the ratchet. Also disconnect the air pipe from the air filter manifold, remember to disconnect the air flow switch gimp from the pipe first. Think I was unfortunate to have such a stubborn filter, I'll post a photo of the remains! Anyway new filter fitted, hand tight using my left hand not forgetting the all important smear of oil on the seal. New centrifuge fitted, fresh oil and started fine with the oil light going out after a few seconds. Just leaving her for a bit to allow the oil to drain back to the sump to see if she needs a touch more. Time for a Ginsters celebration.
One again thanks all!
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Lou Sparts



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Steve
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