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Pickles

Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3786

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Keswick Green

What gear?

We have yet to take delivery of our "90". We are still waiting on option/pricing details from dealer....then we have to wait 6 months. But it will be worth waiting for.
It will be Wifey's car, but we both had a test drive....no highway stuff, just around the city at 30mph/60kph. I was just wondering, at these speeds, what gear would we normally be in at 50/60kph driving around the suburbs?
Cheers, Pickles.

31st May 2013 11:04pm

Clemmo

Member Since: 03 Aug 2012
Location: Mile Oak
Posts: 1221

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey

What gear? ..it's all about how you feel...
If you are driving along and wanting the car to be responsive you will need 3rd or 4th.
If you are happy to tootle at 1100 rpm you can be in 6th.
The engine is very flexible and full of torque so it's your choice..
It's quite possible to breeze along at 30-40mph in 6th

Ps..it will be worth waiting for..

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31st May 2013 11:21pm

WelshGas

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
Location: Vale of Glamorgan
Posts: 935

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

Correct. I look on the Puma's gears as 2,3,4 and 5 are equivalent to 1,2,3 & 4 on a normal car. 6th is like an overdrive and 1st a start off gear for towing or starting on hills etc: as the Defender is a heavy vehicle. Having said that I am frequently in 5th or 6th at 30 to 40 mph on the urban A roads and Dual carriageways that have 30/40/50 mph speed limits with no problems. What I like is the ability of starting in 1st, even on a steep hill without using the accelerator and without fear of stalling due to the anti-stall capability. Have fun when you get it, remember it's different to a eurobox but you'll soon get used to it and it's so much fun. You are definitely respected by other road users when you're driving a Defender.

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1st Jun 2013 9:03am

Pickles

Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3786

WelshGas wrote:
Correct. I look on the Puma's gears as 2,3,4 and 5 are equivalent to 1,2,3 & 4 on a normal car. 6th is like an overdrive and 1st a start off gear for towing or starting on hills etc: as the Defender is a heavy vehicle. Having said that I am frequently in 5th or 6th at 30 to 40 mph on the urban A roads and Dual carriageways that have 30/40/50 mph speed limits with no problems. What I like is the ability of starting in 1st, even on a steep hill without using the accelerator and without fear of stalling due to the anti-stall capability. Have fun when you get it, remember it's different to a eurobox but you'll soon get used to it and it's so much fun. You are definitely respected by other road users when you're driving a Defender.

Thank You WelshGas. Whilst I live in Aus, I am 50% Welsh. my mother comes from Rhymney....we used to holiday in Swansea, when we lived in the U.K.
Thanks for your explanation. In Melbourne, we have a 30mph speed limit, so I couldn't see us getting into 6th very often...at least, with any degree of flexibility, so 4th & 5th would probably be quite normal?
Are there any overdrive ratios in this gearbox, & if so, which are they?
Cheers, Pickles.

1st Jun 2013 11:14am

WelshGas

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
Location: Vale of Glamorgan
Posts: 935

Transmission GFT MT-82 six speed manual
Full time four wheel drive
Transmission
(high/low) : 1 Overall Gearing
(High/Low Range)
1st 5.443 23.334/62.988
2nd 2.839 12.171/32.854
3rd 1.721 7.378/19.916
4th 1.223 5.243/14.153
5th 1.000 4.287/11.572
6th 0.742 3.181/8.587
Reverse 4.935 21.156/57.109
Final drive ratio : 1 3.540
High range transfer box ratio 1.211
Low range transfer box ratio 3.269

Please don't ask for a technical explanation, I'm not a mechanic, but it would seem 6th is an overdrive equivalent gear.

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1st Jun 2013 1:19pm

BigWheels

Member Since: 21 Mar 2010
Location: Somerset
Posts: 1405

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

Keep 1 gear lower until the engine has warmed up. 5th & 6th have less engine braking than 4th (on my 2.4 seems to be between 4th & 5th equivalent in a road car). Around town I go no higher than 4th - easier for stop start. 5th for 35 mph+, 6th for 40 mph+.

I find 1st too low, & 2nd too high for moving off from standstill. Got used to it, but both a bit lower (1st for crawling in high box) would have been better. Are 2.2s the same? Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender

1st Jun 2013 8:43pm

Pickles

Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3786

Thank you people, for that feedback.
So, obviously there's no damage done to the gearbox, if ya're rumbling around the suburbs in the indirects rather than top.....or rather 5th, which is 1:1.
Thanks, Pickles.

1st Jun 2013 10:12pm

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