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WarPig

Member Since: 04 Dec 2009
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 1748

1996 Defender 110 300 Tdi USW Bonatti Grey

Im thinking of getting a FFRR

With the Td6 FFRR's being very affordable for such a lot of car, ive found myself reading up on the FFRR section over the last few months, with a drooling chin

But it seems the one to go for is the 2007> TDV8, which might be outside of my budget. Im battling with the +ves and the -ves of owning one.

Positives

Massive amount of car for the ££
Perfect caravan tower
Stops wife moaning about my 110 being uncomfortable
Not constantly worrying about my 110 getting stolen

Negatives

Maintenance/repair bills
Fear of unknown
Having to sell my 300tdi 110 with galv chassis & bulkhead, & regretting doing so.
Not having an executive salary to pay for maintenance.

Some of the Td6 models are available from £8k upwards, so im very tempted. The 2007 TDV8 models are obviously more expensive, but not beyond the realms of possibility.

Anyone here able to sway me either way?

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25th Mar 2013 5:00pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

For me the big issue would be the potential repair bills. A mate of mine had a TDV6 and the amount he shelled out for a suspension issue would make your teeth curl. For that very reason I would NEVER consider one despite being really impressed when I had one as a 'loaner.'. Please keep the 300TDI and forget your flight of fancy.

If this helps....read on...

http://landroverhell.com/article/4009/

More info here:

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic11609.html

http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic12862-45.html If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

25th Mar 2013 5:23pm

JeremyJ

Member Since: 16 Nov 2011
Location: Aylesbury
Posts: 1758

Drive a TD6 then a TDV8. The TDV8 is awesome (but its no 110!)

25th Mar 2013 5:37pm

ken

Member Since: 18 Aug 2009
Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !!
Posts: 4328

A 3.6 TDV8 remapped is pretty cool

25th Mar 2013 5:45pm

TJ101

Member Since: 30 May 2007
Location: Taunton Somerset
Posts: 3748

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

ken wrote:
A 3.6 TDV8 remapped is pretty cool

Ain't that the truth

Ultimate tow vehicle, for ease and comfort,,, Go and drive a few,, but be warned, you will be hoocked

Had 3 TD6's,,just in case the 1st one was a lemon,,, and could not get on with any of them,, trying to think why,, just something about that lump ??

Whereas the TDV8,, is a complete different ball game,,

California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1

Main Brian James Trailer Dealer for South West UK

25th Mar 2013 6:17pm

WarPig

Member Since: 04 Dec 2009
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 1748

Sound like everyone says the same, the Td6 is underpowered for its weight.

Some horrible reading in those links above

25th Mar 2013 6:28pm

a13x

Member Since: 25 Sep 2011
Location: Burton on Trent
Posts: 553

TDV8 for us, great engine and THE best car I have owned. Still have LR extended warranty and all the issues have been fixed under this.

Running costs are much more expensive compared to the 110 but if I had to have only 1 car it would be the RR by a long shot. Just be aware they were a £70k+ car when new and come with the costs associated with that.

25th Mar 2013 6:29pm

WarPig

Member Since: 04 Dec 2009
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 1748

a13x wrote:
Just be aware they were a £70k+ car when new and come with the costs associated with that.

Thats my main worry, I assume most owners have the income to cope with this, whilst I can afford to buy a used one I don't have an executives income to repair any faults at the drop of a hat. I could stretch to about £18k which might get me a 2007 TDV8 with around 100k miles. But a RR this age/mileage might be ready for some expensive repairs. But then again Im not really sure how expensive repairs might be. I guess the suspension/compressor is an obvious concern.

25th Mar 2013 7:12pm

a13x

Member Since: 25 Sep 2011
Location: Burton on Trent
Posts: 553

It isnt just the repairs but the day to day running costs that can catch people out.

Insurance is twice the price of the defender, road tax is £450+, fuel economy 21mpg combined and then tyres, servicing etc.

My advice would be if you can stretch to one from a LR dealer that has the fully comprehensive LR warranty ( from memory must be less than 6 years and 70k miles) or find a private sale that has the warranty available to transfer over to you.

25th Mar 2013 7:42pm

WarPig

Member Since: 04 Dec 2009
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 1748

a13x wrote:
It isnt just the repairs but the day to day running costs that can catch people out.

Insurance is twice the price of the defender, road tax is £450+, fuel economy 21mpg combined and then tyres, servicing etc.

My advice would be if you can stretch to one from a LR dealer that has the fully comprehensive LR warranty ( from memory must be less than 6 years and 70k miles) or find a private sale that has the warranty available to transfer over to you.

True, i'd hate to have to start doing overtime at work to pay for it all

. Whats the approx cost of tyres by the way?

Perhaps the pleasure of owning one would make me more sensible with my money and stop me buying stuff I dont need?

Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.

25th Mar 2013 7:46pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8006

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

K9F wrote:
TDV6

tdv6 has only just come out in the L405

i personally wouldn't bother with a L322 td6. get a tdv8 3.6 or 4.4 or L405 with the tdv6. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

25th Mar 2013 7:50pm

SGH

Member Since: 27 Sep 2010
Location: Hellingly-Sussex
Posts: 1527

I looked at getting FFRR a while back but decided D3 would be my better option as I could get one within my budget with LR approved warranty as repair bills on these can be high.

I would not want to own a D3 or FFRR without a warranty.

25th Mar 2013 8:14pm

Odin

Member Since: 29 Apr 2011
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 237

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Santorini Black

There's also a significant difference in safety features which may be invaluable.

I found the v6 to be underpowered and the v8 to be a cracker albeit a bit more sedate than the D4.

25th Mar 2013 8:21pm

TJ101

Member Since: 30 May 2007
Location: Taunton Somerset
Posts: 3748

Odin wrote:
There's also a significant difference in safety features which may be invaluable.

I found the v6 to be underpowered and the v8 to be a cracker albeit a bit more sedate than the D4.

When did they fit a V6 into a proper Range Rover ???

Bar the new 405

Must be thinking of a Sport California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1

Main Brian James Trailer Dealer for South West UK

25th Mar 2013 8:24pm

a13x

Member Since: 25 Sep 2011
Location: Burton on Trent
Posts: 553

I too looked at a D3 but it didnt have that special feel a RR gives. All a matter of personal choice though

25th Mar 2013 8:30pm

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