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AndrewW



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Can we change the rear seating and stay legal?
Our Mountain Rescue Team is considering two new 110s to replace the existing 2. We fit a stretcher on a bracket behind the front passenger seat (pushed forward a lot) and the foot end latches on a catch system on the "window-sill" of the nearside tiny rear window. Casualty thus lies down the nearside of the vehicle (not enough room for the driver, if you tried it down the offside).

This fitting a. allows us to function and b. allows us to categorise it as an ambulance for which the road tax is £0.

It obviously blocks out seating in the nearside rear compartment and the left most second row seat.

New 110 models have the 60:40 second row seat arrangement, which gets in the way and we would like to invert it laterally. Can this be done? Legally? Or even simply by using seating out of a LHD vehicle?

Andrew
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Grockle



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AndrewW



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There are mountains in the UK? Rolling Eyes

Ben Nevis The Cairngorms Scotland 1344 metres
Snowdon Snowdonia, part of the Cambrian mountain range Wales 1085 metres
Scafell Pike The Cumbrian Mountains England 977 metres
Slieve Donard The Mourne Mountains Northern Ireland 852 metres


Big hills, OK. Mr. Green Whistle Boldly going nowhere

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AndrewW



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You always were a cunning linguist, James. Whistle
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Just trying to be proven wrong, that's all..... Laughing
Here we go to about 2.000 m. Not the Mont Blanc, for sure (I'm French). Boldly going nowhere

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Post #18898 26th Nov 2009 4:15pm
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alantd



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jamesbond007 wrote:
Just trying to be proven wrong, that's all..... Laughing
Here we go to about 2.000 m. Not the Mont Blanc, for sure (I'm French).


It all depends where you start from Wink You start at 1000m in Chamonix for Mont Blanc (admittedly still higher than anything we have). However, you can't drive a Land Rover up it - someone has driven to the top of Ben Nevis in a Series II. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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AndrewW



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jamesbond007 wrote:
Just trying to be proven wrong, that's all..... .


James Bond is French??? Nah!! Charlatan! (That's a French word...)

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jamesbond007 wrote:
Just trying to be proven wrong, that's all..... Laughing
Here we go to about 2.000 m. Not the Mont Blanc, for sure (I'm French).


2000?????? hahahahaha

we have the Alps!!!!! (Cortina & Co.)


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alantd



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dgardel wrote:
jamesbond007 wrote:
Just trying to be proven wrong, that's all..... Laughing
Here we go to about 2.000 m. Not the Mont Blanc, for sure (I'm French).


2000?????? hahahahaha

we have the Alps!!!!! (Cortina & Co.)


Whistle Whistle Whistle Whistle


Mmm - love those Venetian mountains! Thumbs Up One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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Just to add something

Alps are like priares compared with the Andes were 6.000 mt are normal. (Well, no Nepalese here)
our skiing centers are located at almost 4.000 mt and some mining operations are upper than the Mont Blanc

By the way, did you know that the altitude record in a car was done here by a chilean team that reach 6.688 mt in a Highly modified Susuki Samurai in Ojos del Salado.

Cheers! Eduardo

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AndrewW



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All very good, children. Very Happy Glad to see you've all been doing a lot of reading Thumbs Up , but you're all Off Topic Off Topic

Now, if the p1$$1ng contest is over Whistle , and now that we all know Umberto has a bigger one than Jean-Pierre Shocked , can we get on with the subject in hand? Question



Or does nobody on this forum actually know? Whistle Whistle Whistle Carefully going everywhere
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mse



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Just moving back to topic.

There are 2 things i would look at...first registering it as an ambulance and seeing what allowancies you then get.

The second I was in a puma 110 ambulance with a full stretcher passenger side on Wednesday for work. It had (from memory) Driver and PX front seats, One PX seat on the drivers side 2nd row and behind that it had the racking for the kit required.

So to explain a little better, seating for 3 in a L shape, 1 full stretcher and racking for the kit next to that behind the 2nd row PX seat. Mike
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Mad Cow



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Let's face it if you get in trouble in the hills, are you going to turn down a rescue because of semantics?

"No I'm sorry I'm not getting on that stretcher until you rename yourself a Hill Rescue Team" Laughing

My suggestion would also to talk to other teams, Langdale Ambleside got two new Puma 110 Utilities this year and the ambulance conversion work was done locally by Lakeland Land Rover rather than one of the specialist vehicle converters.

You can email them at lowfold@lamrt.org.uk

And keep up the good work MAD COW

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AndrewW



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Cheers, both...

Extending your comments, MC, is one allowed into A&E at the hospital if the injury was not an accident but done on purpose? Whistle

Water off a duck's back, mate! Thumbs Up Carefully going everywhere
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