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County



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Switzerland 2008 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Stornoway Grey
Winter Tyres for my defender 110 county. 2008
Hi guys.

I am not a petrol head! But drive a fab car!!
I need some advise.
My landi is on General Grabber TR tyres. Size LT 235/85R 16C
Here in switzeland we are required to fit winter tyres but with 4x4s you get away with using these all year.

I have done 65000 km on these tyres so they are possibly coming to the end of their life. However we have always found they do not perform that well in the winter.

Winter has arrived early here in Switzerland. Last weekend we were basking in 22C and yesterday we got over a foot of snow!!

Waffle over!!! winter tyre recommendations and places in the uk who export to France.Switzerland is too expensive. Also winter wheels as its easier to change them over if they are wheels. So steel I guess?

Any help appreciated.


is soon expensive.
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K9F



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Welcome County.....

A few ideas..... Thumbs Up These were a few chosen from 7 of the 15 pages available....Below are all pertaining Winter tyres. Thumbs Up

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic15322.html?highlight=winter

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic11253.html?highlight=winter

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic10475.html?highlight=winter

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic9514.html?highlight=winter

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic8006.html?highlight=winter If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

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MartinK



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On my car (Volvo XC70) I have had great results with Vredestein WINTRAC's.

For the Defender, I notice Paddocks are doing deals on winter tyres at the moment - and they often do wheel & tyre packages... http://www.paddockspares.com/land-rover-wh...abber.html

I have a set of Boost Alloys I bought 2nd hand, and at some point will have a set of summer and a set of winter wheels (as I do on the Volvo)... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
Post #180054 29th Oct 2012 11:53am
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ericvv



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The correct answer is in the 4th post of the 1st thread in k9f's above post Thumbs Up .....
got it Question Whistle You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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CityDriver



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I was actually wondering the same thing. My 2012 110 is on its original tyres (boost alloys with the conti cross), but I am travelling to Switzerland one of more times this winter. Do I also need winter tyres to meet local regulations?

If so, any recommended tyres/alloys?
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ken



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Should help
Country        Winter tyres / Snow chains(5)
===========================================
Andorra        R            / C
Austria        M(1)         / C
Finland        M(3)         / P
France         -            / C
Germany        M(4)         / C
Great Britain  -            / P
Italy          R(7)         / C(7)
Norway         R            / C
Sweden         M(6)         / R
Switzerland    R(2)         / C


Key:
P = Permitted
R = Recommended
M = Mandatory
C = Carry chains and use them as dictated by local signs or road conditions. Reduced speed limits may apply.
Post #186309 19th Nov 2012 1:38pm
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CityDriver



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Weird, somehow I had Switzerland as a mandatory in my head. In any case, what are experience with winter tyres? I need to do 1000km to the Alps on highways and then spend time on some pretty steep slopes with lots of snow and limited cleaning...

I have no experience with my landy in the snow, poor farmboy I am...

Edit: Just to be more specific, I am looking for a wheel/tyre combo. Would not mind spending a bit, but do need to keep highway miles in back of my mind, so nothing too "noisy". Was thinking sticking with 235/85/16" but then changing to some black wheels (somehow love black) and good winter tyre. Am I right with sizing, or are there better alternatives in some? Any tips for black wheels?
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ken



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I know BFG KO's in 265/75/16 are correctly winter rated (Mountain/snowflake symbol) Andy AJS will be able to assist, careful though hes a good Sales Man Thumbs Up

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Martin
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Presume that's the ATs Ken? (Tidied up your list too)  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
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I have been looking at winter tyres recently and have read the above threads however things seem to have moved on with tyres over the past year with regards to sizes available I think this is mainly due to the new regulations around noise etc.

Although the Nokian tyres are undoubtedly great tyres, I was considering a purchase for a one off trip and therefore ruled them out on budget. I came across these:

http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco...gn=froogle

Does anyone have any views on them?

Jason.
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ken



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Nokians are great winter tyres

BFG's work as required
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CityDriver



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Thanks, have Nokian's, General AT and BFG now on my radar. Now for wheels...
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CityDriver



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Think I will give the General AT or other winter tyres a pass. For Germany "winter tyres" are compulsory, but the AA indicates that they accept tyres with the M+S marking. For Switzerland they indicate "snow tyres" are not compulsory, but vehicles should be "equipped to travel through snow".

I think that my standard Continental AT with M+S marking should thus do the job, no? Saves me a hell of a lot of trouble and cost of course. Will just need to by some snow chains, anyone with some advice on that?

Cheers for all your help, much appreciated!
Post #194245 17th Dec 2012 9:40am
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CityDriver



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Anyone with tips for snow chains? Don't want to get stuck with some crapy chains breaking, but am not expert buyer of chains either...

These seems decent, although somewhat more expensive at £135 a pair.


http://www.snowchains.com/4x4-snow-chains/thule-xg-12-pro
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ken



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As long as you have this symbol you cant go far wrong


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Mountain Snowflake Thumbs Up
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