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sc70

Member Since: 29 Jun 2010
Location: Tregaron
Posts: 261

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black

FOXWING

seems cheap

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fox-Wing-Roof-Te...5aeaa76611

21st Oct 2012 8:18pm

Romadog

Member Since: 07 Jul 2011
Location: Powys
Posts: 1749

Think its a copy.

21st Oct 2012 8:23pm

ben_j85jty

Member Since: 02 Sep 2008
Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire
Posts: 491

2002 Defender 110 Td5 XS DCPU Bonatti Grey

Not a copy - but a Fox Wing rather than a Foxwing.

Subtle difference in name, but it looks a lot different in the photo's 2002 Defender 110 DC

21st Oct 2012 9:51pm

GREENI

Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10383

Yeah, compared to the Foxwing, that's a crude Chinese-a-like.

21st Oct 2012 9:59pm

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8582

That is definitely NOT an Oztent Foxwing but a much cheaper version trading on the Foxwing name.

Lots of difference to account for much cheaper price. Some but not all the differences include lack of zips for extension awning, main hinge seems to be a bolt going through a bit of 2mm Ali angle! Quality of stitching, note how the fabric angle drapes as it goes into the poles.

Spares, back up service?

Please note my comments could be construed as being biased as we sell the genuine Foxwings and carry the main spare parts.

Hopefully we will be getting some new additions to the genuine Foxwing range in the new year.

Brendan

21st Oct 2012 11:30pm

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8582

OK at the risk of being accused of spouting BS/trying to protect our commercial interest I have had a look at their other offerings.

If the fixing brackets are the same as another one of their awning brackets they are similar to steel joist straps, i.e bent galv mild steel strip with holes every 2". Genuine ones comes with moulded glass filled nylon brackets and a range of engineered brackets for different bars/racks

Guy ropes plaited polypropylene (?) not kernmantel construction of genuine Oztent guy ropes. Am guessing not the Oztent P clip but plastic or metal slider.

No weight given, genuine Foxwing is 18kg.

Am guessing that the main rib poles are not of the same reinforced design of the genuine Foxwing.

Uses standard hex bolts rather then the square headed ones supplied with genuine Foxwing.

We will be extending our range of awnings and accessories in 2013. I will let you decide if we are adding this to our range or not.

Brendan

22nd Oct 2012 9:02am

GREENI

Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10383

Or other words...

22nd Oct 2012 11:22am

GREENI

Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10383

Can't believe that words censored

22nd Oct 2012 11:23am

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8582

Actually I think the expression you are looking for is 'passing off.'

The law of passing off is designed to prevent misrepresentation in the course of trade to the public.

Using the expression Fox Wing instead of Foxwing when aimed at that type of product could be construed as 'passing off' or misrepresentation as the public could think they are purchasing an Oztent Foxwing rather then a Chinese copy of an Oztent Foxwing which is patented.

The patent might explain some of the differences between the genuine Foxwing and the chinese copy passing off as a 'fox wing.'

Brendan

22nd Oct 2012 11:56am

sc70

Member Since: 29 Jun 2010
Location: Tregaron
Posts: 261

bit of a

take that a company can call it by the "same name"

22nd Oct 2012 9:55pm

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