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Thud



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver
Sound deadening.
What is your advice on making things a bit quieter. 2.4 Puma.

* Dynamat extreme or something else?
* Where needs doing most?
* How easy is doing the front under the seat-wells? Does the existing carpet / rubber come up okay and can it be reused?
* Should I do under the bonnet?
* Do I just use Dynamat / thin bitumen mat or do I need to lay another sound muffling material on top?

Cheers!
Post #163725 22nd Aug 2012 3:25pm
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spudfan



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Tell the wife and kids to walk home Rolling with laughter 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #163727 22nd Aug 2012 3:30pm
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custom90



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I assume you have rubber matting in yours? If so then it will come out but you'll need the seats to come out and what not (Not difficult) There is lot's of different sound proofing brands ect around but they all do the same job ultimately. ideally I would think you want something fairly thin because the rubber matting isn't something you can manipulate to well. Thumbs Up ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️
Post #163729 22nd Aug 2012 3:33pm
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spudfan



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Personally I think that the Puma is O.K. sound wise as it is. Having driven a tdi for years, a Puma is definately a much quieter vehicle. Engine is barely audible as it is. I'd say if you go mad on the sound deadening stuff you will end up hearing the road noise from the tyres a lot more.What exactly is it that you find too noisy? 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #163741 22nd Aug 2012 4:07pm
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Thud



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver
I find the noise too noisy.
Sarcasm aside, in fact it's not too bad but as this my family road car 80% of the time I'd like to reduce the engine noise and probably the tyre noise a bit. I appreciate coming from a Tdi it's quieter but having myself come from a BMW it could do with a decibel or two less.
I'm also upgrading the sound system too which is pointless while it's having to compete with the road and engine noise.
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In that case it's a worthwhile thing to do Thumbs Up I do believe Chris (Killer90) has done it on his all be it a TD5 but does the same job. I'll see if I can bring his attention to this thread as to what he used and how it's fitted. He even has some pictures or at least did Wink ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️
Post #163749 22nd Aug 2012 4:32pm
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Thud



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He'll likely be on later... That's if he ain't chasing the local Landy babes Rolling with laughter Anyway what audio upgrades are you planning may I ask? Thumbs Up ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️
Post #163751 22nd Aug 2012 4:35pm
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Thud



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver
These are fitted at the front:
http://www.raysmith.co.uk/rainbow-car-spea...-watt.html
They'll also go in back once I stiffen up the rear speaker enclosures.
Haven't decided on a head unit or 4 channel amp yet.
There will also be a little powered Focal sub too.
I'll at least aim to get the new wires for the amp in while the seats and carpets are out while the sound deadening goes down.
Post #163756 22nd Aug 2012 4:40pm
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I take your point. Coming from a BMW a Puma may seem a little noisy but as I never owned a car and went from an earlier Land Rover to the Puma I find it a revalation. I do hear tyre noise rather than engine noise but I am happy with the Puma. I suppose it all depends on what yard stick you use. I am also pleased with the standard sound system but then again it is light years ahead of the previous vehicle.Best of luck but if you will ever get the sound level or the sound system to the levels you were used to is debatable! 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #163759 22nd Aug 2012 4:45pm
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Thud



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No that's understandable but any improvement is still improvement. Be interesting to see what can be done. Just want to go about it the most efficient way without covering every unnecessary surface with perhaps the wrong stuff.
Post #163762 22nd Aug 2012 4:54pm
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custom90



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Those speakers look pretty powerful going by the size of the magnet Thumbs Up I would imagine they JUST fit in the front clearance wise especially in the passenger side with the plastic ducting just behind. ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️
Post #163763 22nd Aug 2012 4:57pm
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Thud



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They don't actually Big Cry . I had to cut some plastic plates which is a good thing as they make for stiffer baffles than before.
Post #163765 22nd Aug 2012 5:00pm
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spudfan



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For what it is worth I knew someone who bought camping roll mats and put them under his existing carpets. He also lined the insides of the seat boxes with it as it was simply stuck to the metal. It is easily cut and trimmed. I don't know how it compares with the other purpose made material. Also good as it was I don't know how fire retardant it was! 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #163767 22nd Aug 2012 5:06pm
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hope the speaker magnets don't get too close to any electronic boxes behind the dash Shocked
Post #163774 22nd Aug 2012 5:42pm
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