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grafty99



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Hypermiling.
I know that Defender mpg has been done to death but please bear with me.

I read a fourum about hypermiling and was quite intrigued with what lengths people go to to get the best mpg out of their vehicles.

I know that the defender is not a very economical vehicle and trying to improve mpg is not what the defender is all about BUT, was wondering if anyone was interested in doing an mpg challenge?

How you drive is by far the biggest factor but there are others (just Google Hypermiling)

So anybody up for the challenge? I'll start with mine.

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Post #162877 18th Aug 2012 12:17pm
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K9F



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Re: Hypermiling.
grafty99 wrote:
So anybody up for the challenge? Best Round and about Mpg 36.2


NO not me anyway! Shocked Thud Shocked

And yes it has!

grafty99 wrote:
I know that Defender mpg has been done to death


Hypermiling....Think I'd rather stay at home and contemplate the fluff extraction from ny navel with a pair of tweezers...Much more entertaining!

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Post #162879 18th Aug 2012 12:36pm
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ibexman



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Best i can manage whether i rag it or not on td5 irb stage 1 d2 box is 300 miles per tank 26/26 mpg 36 would be a dream Whistle Whistle Rolling with laughter
Post #162880 18th Aug 2012 12:38pm
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Pam W



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I'm with Ibexman. I'm averaging about 26, commuting in mixed driving - town/A-roads?B Roads/ City. Could probably get much better on a long cruise but that would be exceptional anyway for my use, so 26 is what I go!

Considering the extra weight of my roll cage I don't think its so bad. One Very Happy though is that the first 2 weeks I had the roof tent on there was no change! Still 26 !

Hopefully going off for a few days soon so will have it a bit more loaded, but different sorts of roads. Will be interesting to see how it goes.

As for hypermiling - you can sometimes tell when a driver in front of you is ! Problem is one vehicles optimum fuel efficient speed can be completely different to other vehicles. So someone getting better fuel economy at the front of a queue might be screwing up everyone else's behind them! Rolling Eyes Our blog - http://landytravels.com/

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Post #162898 18th Aug 2012 2:30pm
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ZeDefender



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Just an observation but ScanGauge has really shown me just how much fuel I waste by driving badly. I'm definitely not going to hold anyone up but on the motorway or on my own on back roads I can get 10+ mpg more just by "taking it easy".
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Post #162901 18th Aug 2012 3:01pm
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noworries4x4



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Escorting Wide Loads and slow cranes is bad enough when its my job to sit there at 45-50 There is no way on earth i am going to do it when i dont have to. If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.

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Post #162907 18th Aug 2012 3:32pm
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grafty99



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In Devon, there are plenty of slower things out there! And you don't have to drive very slowly to achieve good mpg.

Obviously i don't get that out of every tank. My average is about 29-32 at normal speeds, and lower obviously when i use the power. I was only curious if anyone had bettered that? seems not. 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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The best I've seen out of one tank is 400 miles, thats in TD5 90 IRB stage 2 with VNT
Post #162936 18th Aug 2012 6:13pm
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grafty99 wrote:
I was only curious if anyone had bettered that? seems not.


Seems so....apparently... This is what you have to aspire to....crack on! Rolling with laughter Whistle

Taken from another thread....

NinetyTD4 wrote:
My 90/2.4 Puma gives me constantly above 450 miles on a tank and I am happy /w it -



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Pam W



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When I see people quoting some of the better figures (like over 32 mpg) I wonder if they are working it out correctly or if their milo / speedo is reading accurately or not!!

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Now is that what certain modern car drivers practising on the UK motorways then?

Have noticed that there is more drivers on motorways driving at 50-55 mph in lane 1 and 2. These car drivers are a real PITA and should not be allowed on motorways if they can not keep up with the general flow of traffic. No I am not talking about cars which have top speeds of about 50 mph.

Cars driven at 50 mph in lane 1 forcing HGV out into lane 2 to overtake them causes congestion and slow down the average flow of traffic.

If they drive in lane 2 at 50 mph because lane 1 is the slow/lorry lane causing lorries and owing vehicles to have to undertake them cause congestion, adversely affects other vehicles mpg and increases danger to other road users!

Rant over


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grafty99



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Ok, maybe my first post should have contained a disclaimer, i drive like any normal person, safely, and keeping up with the traffic. I posted what i have achieved around and about on quiet roads and mentioned that i googled hypermiling. My figure is the best i have achieved and wondered if any more was possible. I didn't want to offend people, i just found the article interesting. I completely agree that driving too slowly on the motorway or anywhere else in dangerous, hence i don't do it. 65-70 mph is i feel the best combination of speed, economy and what my ears will take on the motorway.

i didn't want to start a ranting match or annoy anyone, was just wondering what was possible. If anyone is interested here is a good mpg calculator http://www.mpg-calculator.co.uk/ 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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A lot of good points raised here, I guess just ease off the gas when it suits and its safe to do so, and when there is no time imperative in your life. I think peoples' individual circumstances and uses are far too variable for this to be conclusive Grafty99 in terms of who gets best mpg - best for yourselves is what matters 2005 TD5 90 Hard Top

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Just for the hell of it, I filled the tank and flogged the 90 down to Shrewsbury yesterday. Didn't break any speed limits, just drove it hard. I'm trying to get the worst fuel economy-just to make sure that driving like an old giffer really is worth the extra pennies Rolling Eyes
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grafty99 wrote:
I didn't want to offend people... I didn't want to start a ranting match or annoy anyone

For God's sake don't worry about that - unless you're trying to Wink
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I think you're idea is a good one if you're into that sort of thing but 20 members may disagree with me in the next half hour.
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