↓ Advertise on Defender2 ↓

Home > Maintenance & Modifications > Bonnet-mounted spare wheel
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 1 of 3 123>
Print this entire topic · 
Captain Speaking



Member Since: 23 Jan 2012
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 159

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Tonga Green
Bonnet-mounted spare wheel
I've had a quick search for this topic, but not easy on a damn Blackberry...

What's the posish with mounting the spare on a Puma bonnet? I'm sure Inspector Knacker would go berserk, but it's worth asking.

Anyone on here done it?
Post #162759 17th Aug 2012 10:47pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
leeds



Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8582

United Kingdom 
General consensus would be (a) bonnet not strong enough (b) spare on Puma bonnet would be too obstructive to driver vision.

Brendan
Post #162762 17th Aug 2012 10:53pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
noworries4x4



Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Newton Abbot Devon
Posts: 1195

England 
I think the main reason you cant have them any more is the same as bull bars pedestrian saftey, nasty knock on the pumpkin if you hit someone and they go over the top instead of forwards, the mear fact that a Land Rovers bumper is going to break peoples legs in the first place, hey ho good old health and saftey, ahh that reminds me i am off to have a good old rant on the grumpy old man thread. If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.

Every Day 16 MY Discovery 4 Commercial Workshop and Escort Vehicle
Weekends 07MY L322 TDV8 Vogue SE
Series 1 80" 3ltr 6cyl with overdrive
No Worries 4X4
Post #162789 18th Aug 2012 7:26am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Send e-mail Reply with quote
GREENI



Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10383

United Kingdom 
That made me think of this

Click image to enlarge
Post #162795 18th Aug 2012 7:54am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
leeds



Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8582

United Kingdom 
To the best of my knowledge there is no legal reason against having a bonnet mounted spare wheel, as long as you have clear vision of the road ahead.

Likewise there is no legal reason not to have a winch mounting system on the front of your vehicle as long as there is a winch attached to it.


Brendan
Post #162812 18th Aug 2012 8:42am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17480

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
noworries4x4 wrote:
I think the main reason you cant have them any more is the same as bull bars pedestrian saftey, nasty knock on the pumpkin if you hit someone and they go over the top instead of forwards, the mear fact that a Land Rovers bumper is going to break peoples legs in the first place, hey ho good old health and saftey, ahh that reminds me i am off to have a good old rant on the grumpy old man thread.


I believe the practice was outlawed under EU type approval laws not because of pedestrian safety but because of occupant safety.

If the bonnet is strong enough to carry the wheel both it and the wheel tend to come through the windscreen in a hard frontal collision.
Post #162815 18th Aug 2012 8:48am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Happyoldgit



Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3471

United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
You seriously wouldn't want one perched on top of the hump on a Puma bonnet would you Laughing Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

[Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc]

http://forums.lr4x4.com

I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic.
Post #162829 18th Aug 2012 9:23am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
BigWheels



Member Since: 21 Mar 2010
Location: Somerset
Posts: 1405

United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Where are double cab spare wheels factory fitted? Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
Post #162840 18th Aug 2012 9:49am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Glynparry25



Member Since: 16 Feb 2009
Location: Miserable Midlands
Posts: 3015

Wales 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Tonga Green
BigWheels wrote:
Where are double cab spare wheels factory fitted?


Bolted to the back of the cab in the load space.

Glyn
Post #162841 18th Aug 2012 9:52am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
BigWheels



Member Since: 21 Mar 2010
Location: Somerset
Posts: 1405

United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Not much room left in a 110 flatbed with it there. Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
Post #162845 18th Aug 2012 9:57am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Glynparry25



Member Since: 16 Feb 2009
Location: Miserable Midlands
Posts: 3015

Wales 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Tonga Green
Nope..... especially once you have got bigger tires. Some move to a swing away carrier, roof rack ,or I have put mine on top of the rear cover

Glyn Dog Sheep
Post #162847 18th Aug 2012 9:59am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Captain Speaking



Member Since: 23 Jan 2012
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 159

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Tonga Green
Quote:
You seriously wouldn't want one perched on top of the hump on a Puma bonnet would you


Well if it looked like the old military Defenders I reckon it would look seriously cool.

It's just peering through a gap in the windscreen the size of a letterbox that might present some problems... Rolling with laughter
Post #162900 18th Aug 2012 2:57pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
K9F



Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Captain,

MK asked the same question when I fitted my bonnet chequerplate. Think that may be the only option if you're going to mount a spare, either that or a smaller plate to add some strength. Not sure if he went ahead though?

K9F wrote:
MK wrote:
Despite the visibility problems, do you think the hood with the ch.plate can support a slim spare tire over it?


My fault...Sorry I misunderstood MK! In answer to your query......Definately. Fatty here is approximately 87 kilos in your money or 13 and a half stone and it will support my weight applied solely on my knee when forcing it down to get the bolts in no trouble at all. At 3mm thick I would imagine it would support alot more as when it is bolted down there is no flex in it whatsoever!
 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #162912 18th Aug 2012 4:25pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
shaun.mobile



Member Since: 12 Dec 2011
Location: England
Posts: 156

United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Fuji White
Quote:
I believe the practice was outlawed under EU type approval laws not because of pedestrian safety but because of occupant safety.

If the bonnet is strong enough to carry the wheel both it and the wheel tend to come through the windscreen in a hard frontal collision.


hmmm, in a hard frontal collision the deceleration of the vehicle coupled with the inertia of the bonnet mounted spare wheel would result (if the fastners failed) in the wheel becoming detached and by the laws of physics, trying to maintain its momentum. so blackwolf is right about it going through the windscreen, only it's not your windscreen, it's the one on the car that you have just slammed into.

assuming that you have mounted your spare (with big fat tyre) on the bonnet, do you have to use a high lift jack to get it open to check your oil?

would like to see some pictures of bonnet mounted wheels on puma's, both from a driver's visibilty perspective and from the front.
Post #163062 19th Aug 2012 2:05pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17480

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Not if you've just rear-ended a truck ... or whatever's hit you is big enough to come over the chassis. Then say hello to Mr. Spare, closely followed by the Grim Reaper.
Post #163161 19th Aug 2012 9:45pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Post Reply  Back to top
Page 1 of 3 123>
All times are GMT

Jump to  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >
Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Site Copyright © 2006-2025 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
DEFENDER2.NET RSS Feed - All Forums