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Green Machine

Member Since: 19 Nov 2010
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1226

Front foot well floor screws - what are they?

I've just lifted the driver's foot well carpet in my Td5 to find a rather nice collection of rusty screw heads. A quick inspection of the underside (through a layer of waxoyl) would suggest that these aren't all the same fixing. Some of them appear to be self-tappers, and some are setscrews with a nut on the underside. I wondered if anyone with MicroCat would be able to tell me what these are and their sizes so that I can order some stainless replacements. Don't know whether these are the same between Td5 and Puma, probably not (mine's Td5). If not, I will have to take some of them out to measure, but it looks like a fiddly job especially with the waxoyl coating all the threads / nuts.

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Cheers in advance for any assistance! 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green

18th Jun 2012 10:36am

Zagato
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Member Since: 08 Jan 2011
Location: Billingshurst West Sussex
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You can buy these replacement fasteners in kit form for both footwells - I have a set somewhere but not sure where I got them from sorry

18th Jun 2012 11:00am

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

just give the existing ones a clean up and a light coating of oil .. why replace them ?

18th Jun 2012 12:15pm

Green Machine

Member Since: 19 Nov 2010
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1226

Zagato wrote:
You can buy these replacement fasteners in kit form for both footwells - I have a set somewhere but not sure where I got them from sorry

Cheers Zag, I was going to order replacements from Stig's Stainless - closer inspection of their site reveals that they do a kit, so that was easier than anticipated!

bpman wrote:
just give the existing ones a clean up and a light coating of oil .. why replace them?

I'm planning to get a set of Entreq's stainless threshold strips, so thought I'd do these at the same time - just makes for a tidier job and appeals to my OCD tendancies!

2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green

18th Jun 2012 12:22pm

Happyoldgit

Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
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2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

Remove a sample of each and take them along to your local engineering / fastening supplies place where you should be able to get them for peanuts. Steve.
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18th Jun 2012 1:44pm

diesel_jim

Member Since: 13 Oct 2008
Location: hiding
Posts: 6112

The large self tapping screws are part # DA614061L, No.14 x 3/4"

The others are just M6x20 bolts with washers and nuts

18th Jun 2012 2:46pm

Retroanaconda

Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 2683

I replaced mine with stainless torx pan-head #14 self-tappers, and standard 20mm stainless M6 bolts/nuts. Should make it easier to get the floors out next time!

Wouldn't bother with any non-stainless options to be honest. The ones I bought were pence from local nut/bolt place and will never rust.

18th Jun 2012 6:39pm

Green Machine

Member Since: 19 Nov 2010
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1226

Thanks for the replies guys - have sorted out some stainless replacements so will get them changed at the weekend.

2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green

18th Jun 2012 7:11pm

cradgebank

Member Since: 30 Dec 2008
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 308

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

A Tip regarding removing the M6 bolts, rather than trying to undo them if the threads are covered in wax oil etc, simply tighten them until they shear off, thats the fastest way of removing them. Richard

Either a 90, 110 or 130.
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18th Jun 2012 11:46pm

BrickBox

Member Since: 05 Oct 2021
Location: Wales
Posts: 857

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver

Just to bump this thread back up.

Does anyone have a link to these screws/bolts as a kit? And also, any advice on how to remove the old rusty ones and fit the new ones. What do the screws screw into? 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.

30th May 2022 7:25pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4731

The screws used to screw into plastic wall type plug receivers. Honestly any screw,washer and receiver will do. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

31st May 2022 5:58pm

BrickBox

Member Since: 05 Oct 2021
Location: Wales
Posts: 857

Thank you for your reply!

Is it a case of putting the receiver in the hole and it’ll stay in place while you screw into it? 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.

31st May 2022 6:10pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4731

Just hold the receiver with a pliers and screw away! I was stuck and used a screw and washer on top, then below a washer and a wall plug! Still in place years later. Brass screws don't rust. Not for the purist but it works. You can put silicon sealer beetween the washers and floors if you like. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

31st May 2022 6:29pm

Dinnu

Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
Location: Lija
Posts: 3469

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black

Self tappings around bulkhead footwells and transmission tunnel fit into CZA4705L. These are fitted into square holes, so they cannot turn. Once the self tapping is screwed in, they expand to really lock in place.

On the seatbox side, there are spire nuts that slide in the seat box, part number 302532.

If using stainless (but also applicable to steel), I like to put a plastic washer between the steel/stainless washer and the floor board to minimize galvanic corrosion. On my old 90 I have used 6.3x20 stainless self tappings and 6.4x1.4x18 washers, and M6x25 pan heads.

As mentioned earlier, the floor boards are bolted to the sills with M6x25 screws.

On earlier Defenders these were all pozi drive screws. On later defenders they are torx. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black

31st May 2022 6:41pm

BrickBox

Member Since: 05 Oct 2021
Location: Wales
Posts: 857

Brilliant,

Thank you for replying. The current screws are quite rusty - can I just drill them out? Or will I damage anything? 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.

31st May 2022 8:04pm

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