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ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
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2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

VPLDV0061 - Legal Xenon bulb upgrade

Received the newest Defender brochure from LR Switzerland and noticed that in the Accessories section one can now order directly from LR a set of Xenon bulbs to use in the existing H4 lamp units on a Defender 2007 onward. Saw that LR UK offer this same accessory. Seems a fully road legal replacement for standard H4 bulbs. Link is attached.
http://accessories.landrover.com/inter/acc...99706D6505

Question is, has anybody already used these? Worth its money?
And will they also fit the H4 lamp units of the SVX? (presume they will, but still checking)

If they are really good, intend to order them so that they can be installed prior to a long trip I will make thursday.

Tks, Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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18th May 2012 1:03pm

Martin
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2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

At that price they will still be normal filament-type H4 bulbs, with Xenon gas in the envelope. They're not an HID retrofit.

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

18th May 2012 1:46pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

Martin wrote:
At that price they will still be normal filament-type H4 bulbs, with Xenon gas in the envelope. They're not an HID retrofit.

Sure, that is why they probably are fully road legal as replacement H4 bulbs. But I am really interested if anybody can confirm that they indeed give a better brighter light than standard H4. Land Rover is offering them with exactly that argument.

So still interested if someone can confirm

In any case, I did order a set from LR here in Geneva, will be delivered at dealer tuesday and will be installed wednesday afternoon. Just in time for my 850km trip to Belgium thursday

I will give my opinion when I am back in the weekend

You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
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18th May 2012 2:03pm

Martin
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They will be a LR boxed version of the Philips X-treme Vision or Osram Nightbreaker Plus or similar I'm sure (LR don't make bulbs)

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

18th May 2012 2:13pm

J8GHX

Member Since: 22 May 2012
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 154

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey

My first message, and I hope it's useful!

I bought my 90XS last September, and had the LR Xenon bulb upgrade.

In comparison to another TdCi 90 which I use occasionally, I can confirm that they make a huge difference.

They emit a much whiter, more defined beam on dipped, and a far better high beam.

100% recommended!

John. Currently....... all gone...... pending delivery of a mid life crisis.......
Previously..... Quite a few! I really am a sucker for them!

26th Jun 2012 3:47pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

Fully agree

As posted before I have mine now for a month or so in use, and compared to the standard H4's before, this is a world of difference. Nice crisp natural white light, much brighter, and luckily not a shade of blue. Great and legal upgrade

26th Jun 2012 4:11pm

df1

Member Since: 06 Aug 2011
Location: Ireland
Posts: 221

Can these be fitted to TD5 ?

26th Jun 2012 5:41pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

df1 wrote:
Can these be fitted to TD5 ?

yes

but you might also want to look at PIAA extreme brilliance bulbs too

26th Jun 2012 6:23pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

df1 wrote:
Can these be fitted to TD5 ?

They are just standard size H4 bulbs which will fit in any Halogen light unit, so no problem at all. Pretty sure as already said by others that they are either made by Osram, Philips or PIAA, but one thing is for sure, Land Rover picked a very good one with nice white and sharp edged light emission. My SVX has the clear H4 lenses, but believe they will also be a very nice upgrade in the standard stock light units. An inexpensive worthwhile upgrade

26th Jun 2012 6:43pm

AP90

Member Since: 04 May 2012
Location: London
Posts: 13

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black

Hi Gents

Can you all straighten me out on something.

Is it "illegal" to put H4 HID's int the standard housings and when did this legislation come into force?

I have an old porsche 911 993 with tungsten filament lamp housings and have had HID conversion in it for about 8 years with no MOT problems.

I was hoping to do the H4 HID conversion on my 2010 Puma 90

Thanks

Ash

26th Jun 2012 7:24pm

XS Pete

Member Since: 13 Jan 2011
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 632

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Strictly speaking it is illegal, and as far as I know always has been, unless the vehicle is also equipped with headlamp washers and automatic light levelling to try and prevent blinding oncoming traffic. However, there are so many cars about now with these retrofitted, I think most MOT stations either turn a blind eye, or don't understand the construcyion and use regulations.

Pete

26th Jun 2012 9:49pm

mobilecentre

Member Since: 05 Mar 2012
Location: Evesham
Posts: 645

HID retrofit kits are not approved on various levels for Defender.

The 2012 MOT now contains specific guidelines for the detection and possible failure of vehicles fitted with aftermarket HID kits in order to start to clamp down on the amount of illegal kits.

The lamp on the vehcile must be used with the appoved light source so you cannot stick LED bulbs into your signal lights or HID into your headlights on a Defender legally.

Tim

27th Jun 2012 7:02am

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