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CapeLandy



Member Since: 21 Jul 2008
Location: Cape Town
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South Africa 
Rattle sound - could it be the oil
Funny thing happened the other day - After 10K of driving since last service we were finding the noise that sounded like it was transmission is actually from the engine.

It used to take a few hours of driving and then we would here the grr grr noise in 2nd gear when the revs were a bit low.
As we got closer to 10K it started happening even when the engine was idling - so I opened the bonet and it sounded almost like a tappet rattle.
The night before she went back to the dealer to change the worn breather pipes on the gearbox,front diff and t-case I decided to change the oil and filter. I managed to get the only oil available in RSA that meets the Ford A1 spec being Castol Magnatec Professional. Runs out the can like sewing machine oil.
After changing the oil the noise did not re-apear even when the engine was warm and dealer as usual could not find the noise.
I am wondering if the oil quality and viscosity are the problem and the low pressure when thin is causing a tappet rattle of some sort.
Any opinions?
The oil that came out after 10K was pretty watery.
Cheers
James Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #14543 24th Aug 2009 5:45am
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Grockle



Member Since: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Peak District National Park
Posts: 2266

United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Sounds like you did a good thing changing it when you did James,I have only heard of this once before when we put fully synthetic in a Golf auto and had the same noise on changing back to normal oil the noise went completley 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.
Post #14548 24th Aug 2009 8:20am
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bob neville



Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
Location: Marbella
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Spain 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
James

I changed my oil at the weekend, 1500 miles from new, and put in Castrol Magnatec A1 to the LR spec.

Before the change my engine was rattling a fair bit and quite noisey, it had been like this since new. After the change the engine is remarkably rattle free and quiet.

Before coming to a conclusion about LR putting rubbish oil in from new I will wait until I have done another 1,500 miles to see it the rattling etc. returns.

What did catch me out was the rapid and powerful flow of the draining oil - luckily I have a gravel driveway !
All the oil changes I have done prior to this were on non synthetic oil which drains out like treacle !

Bob
Post #14557 24th Aug 2009 11:40am
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CapeLandy



Member Since: 21 Jul 2008
Location: Cape Town
Posts: 558

South Africa 
Excuse the piracy from another forum
Oil Change instructions for Women:

1) Drive into Ultra Tune when the odometer reaches 10,000 kilometres since the last oil change.
2) Drink a cup of coffee , read free paper.
3) 15 minutes later, swipe the Visa and leave with a properly maintained vehicle.
Money spent:
Oil Change: $50.00
Coffee: $2.00
Total: $52.00

Oil Change instructions for Men:

1) Wait until Saturday, drive to auto parts store and buy a case of oil, filter, kitty litter, hand cleaner and a scented tree, swipe the Visa for $50.00.
2) Stop by the Bottle Shop and buy a slab of beer, swipe the Visa for $40, drive home.
3) Open a beer and drink it.
4) Jack car up. Spend 30 minutes looking for jack stands.
5) Find jack stands under caravan.
6) In frustration, open another beer and drink it.
7) Place drain pan under engine.
Cool Look for 19 mm ring spanner.
9) Give up and use crescent wrench.
10) Unscrew drain plug.
11) Drop drain plug in pan of hot oil: splash hot oil on you in process.. Curse and swear.
12) Crawl out from under car to wipe hot oil off face and arms. Throw kitty litter on spilled oil.
13) Have another beer while watching oil drain.
14) Spend 30 minutes looking for oil filter wrench.
15) Give up; crawl under car and hammer a screwdriver through oil filter and twist off.
16) Crawl out from under car with dripping oil filter splashing oil everywhere from holes. Cleverly, hide old oil filter among trash in trash can to avoid environmental penalties. Drink a beer.
17) Install new oil filter making sure to apply a thin coat of oil to gasket surface.
1Cool Dump first litre of fresh oil into engine.
19) Remember drain plug from step 11.
20) Hurry to find drain plug in drain pan.
21) Drink beer.
22) Discover that first litre of fresh oil is now on the floor.. Throw kitty litter on oil spill.
23) Get drain plug back in with only a minor spill. Drink beer.
24) Crawl under car getting kitty litter into eyes. Wipe eyes with oily rag used to clean drain plug. Slip with stupid crescent wrench tightening drain plug and bang knuckles on frame removing any excess skin between knuckles and frame.
25) Begin swearing fit.
26) Throw stupid crescent wrench.
27) Swear for additional 5 minutes because wrench hit bowling trophy.
2Cool Beer.
29) Clean up hands and bandage as required to stop blood flow.
30) Beer.
31) Dump in five fresh litres of oil.
32) Beer.
33) Lower car from jack stands.
34) Move car back to apply more kitty litter to fresh oil spilled during any missed steps.
35) Beer.
36) Test drive car.
37) Get pulled over: arrested for driving under the influence.
3Cool Car is impounded.
39) Call loving wife, make bail.
40) 12 hours later, get car from impound yard.
Money spent:
Parts: $50.00
DUI: $2500.00
Impound fee: $75.00
Bail: $1500.00
Beer: $40.00
Total: $4,185.00 Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #14558 24th Aug 2009 11:47am
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Bundubasher



Member Since: 25 Sep 2008
Location: Sandton
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South Africa 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Glad to see that I am not the only man who ruins his driveway during every oil change.
Post #14571 24th Aug 2009 5:59pm
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