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Sockpuppet

Member Since: 17 Sep 2011
Location: Leicester
Posts: 479

Utility Wagon - 988 kilo payload

Perusing the 2.2 brochure still trying to convince myself to stop being a tight arse and buy one. Well wanted to wait to see how some things panned out first so back looking today having finally got a 2.2 brochure I noticed that the Utility Wagons have a payload of 988 kg, which I take it means they're not VAT reclaimable?

Am I reading that right. Surely LR would have fought for that extra 12kg. As it'll be a business purchase kind of puts the kybosh on one if its not a vat ok vehicle.

30th Apr 2012 2:50pm

cradgebank

Member Since: 30 Dec 2008
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 308

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

All models of Defender are VAT reclaimable. Richard

Either a 90, 110 or 130.
Discovery 5

30th Apr 2012 2:53pm

Sockpuppet

Member Since: 17 Sep 2011
Location: Leicester
Posts: 479

cradgebank wrote:
All models of Defender are VAT reclaimable.

That is what I thought. But I'm sure there rule about it having to carry over a 1000kg. I suppose that might be for Car derived vans. Maybe the defender is a Van derived car!

30th Apr 2012 2:59pm

mrandmrsh

Member Since: 31 May 2010
Location: Huddersfield
Posts: 692

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Santorini Black

And they (the Utility Wagon) are N1 (cheap road tax but lower speed limits in places and can be harder to get insurance perhaps) and can be classed as a van for benefit in kind as well as VAT terms

Note a 7 seater 110 can't be classed as a van for benefit in kind (not sure about VAT as it was irrelevant to me due to BIK)

C 2015 110 USW XS in Santorini with premium contrast leather seats in tan/black, black headlining and with Dual Finish alloys (in the garage, now on Wolf rims with Goodyear MT/Rs)

2012 '62' 2.2 X-Tech 110 USW now gone ...
1984 90 soft top with full roll cage, 200 tdi engine etc now sold
2012 USW XS 2.2 "FUU" now gone....

30th Apr 2012 3:14pm

Sockpuppet

Member Since: 17 Sep 2011
Location: Leicester
Posts: 479

From the horses mouth.

Quote:
Based on the information that you have provided I can advise that the Land Rover Defender hard top is classed as a commercial vehicle and is VAT deductible.. The Land Rover Defender Utility Wagon 110, Base, County or Excess are also classed as commercial vehicles and are VAT deductible.

Decided to ask HMRC as the rules are hard to understand, to be a van the payload has to be over 1000kg but the utility only has 988kg. Seems that doesn't matter. So here we have it in writing. You can claim the VAT back.

25th May 2012 11:47am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17382

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

mrandmrsh wrote:
And they (the Utility Wagon) are N1 (cheap road tax but lower speed limits in places and can be harder to get insurance perhaps) and can be classed as a van for benefit in kind as well as VAT terms

Note a 7 seater 110 can't be classed as a van for benefit in kind (not sure about VAT as it was irrelevant to me due to BIK)

C

All Defenders are "dual purpose vehicles" as defined by C&U '86 (as amended) and as such are subject to car, not van, speed limits.

25th May 2012 1:51pm

mrandmrsh

Member Since: 31 May 2010
Location: Huddersfield
Posts: 692

blackwolf wrote:
mrandmrsh wrote:
And they (the Utility Wagon) are N1 (cheap road tax but lower speed limits in places and can be harder to get insurance perhaps) and can be classed as a van for benefit in kind as well as VAT terms

Note a 7 seater 110 can't be classed as a van for benefit in kind (not sure about VAT as it was irrelevant to me due to BIK)

C

All Defenders are "dual purpose vehicles" as defined by C&U '86 (as amended) and as such are subject to car, not van, speed limits.

Is that right? I stand corrected thanks. So I am only breaking the limit by a little now.
Ta
Craig 2015 110 USW XS in Santorini with premium contrast leather seats in tan/black, black headlining and with Dual Finish alloys (in the garage, now on Wolf rims with Goodyear MT/Rs)

2012 '62' 2.2 X-Tech 110 USW now gone ...
1984 90 soft top with full roll cage, 200 tdi engine etc now sold
2012 USW XS 2.2 "FUU" now gone....

25th May 2012 2:01pm

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