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Froggy

Member Since: 01 Apr 2012
Location: Stellenbosch South Africa
Posts: 17

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Blenheim Silver

Loose pillar/roof section bolts

Hi all,
I took delivery of my 2010 2.4 Puma yesterday.
As the day progressed I started to get a squeaking/rattle which seemed to come from the door pillar.
At first I thought it might have been the roof rack which they swopped over from my TD5, especially when I put my hand out of the window and pulled down on it and the noise got better.

After further investigation it became obvious that the roof section bolts connecting it to the body had come loose.

I took it to my local dealer who sorted it out straight away under warranty.

Has anybody else had this problem with a newish vehicle?
Is it likely to reoccur, especially as I do some serious off roading?

In all the years that I have run older Defenders, I have never had this problem.

Cheers,
Froggy. Flying the flag in a country full of Toyota's!

4th Apr 2012 7:35pm

Zagato
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Member Since: 08 Jan 2011
Location: Billingshurst West Sussex
Posts: 5009

Not heard of it Froggy, your little landy picture is saying it's a 2.2 by the way

4th Apr 2012 7:56pm

Dave-H

Member Since: 08 Feb 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1507

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Tonga Green

Had to tighten all mine too a few months back .... so i assume they had worked loose over time??

All got a wee drip of threadlock this time

Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.

4th Apr 2012 9:03pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

I'll be checking mine at the w/e ... thanks

5th Apr 2012 6:44am

BruceT

Member Since: 01 Nov 2010
Location: South Africa
Posts: 517

Thats LR QC for you.......when I bought mine I went through all the nuts and bolts I could find. You will be amazed at what I found either loose or missing.

For example: the anti roll bar bolts were finger tight - 19mm IIRC?. (I was able to remove them with my fingers.) I noticed them when I was standing behind the vehicle. Dont know how LR missed them in their pre delivery checks.......This is what caused me to check everything.

I would say out of all the bolts I checked at least 30 to 40% of them needed tightening. Some were even missing. I never checked the bolts you are talking about though. (guess what Im doing this weekend)

Another thing I did was to remove all the rubber mats, and put lights under the vehicle when it was dark. This showed all the gaps in the panels, between the doors etc etc. Some needed tightening/re aligning, some needed weather seal tape, some needed silicon.

I now have a dust free Landy.

13th Apr 2012 8:13am

Froggy

Member Since: 01 Apr 2012
Location: Stellenbosch South Africa
Posts: 17

A great tip Bruce to find the gaps, thats my job for the weekend now also.

Cheers,
Froggy. Flying the flag in a country full of Toyota's!

13th Apr 2012 3:05pm

marklockett2103

Member Since: 08 Feb 2011
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 32

I had the same problem, kept finding nuts everytime i cleaned it, the the rattles in the back started after about 2k miles, took it back and was told when i collected that all but 4 had come loose and fallen off behind the trim. since then ive done around 6k miles and the rattles are coming back, just need to get around to fitting nylocs instead. my cubby box is used now to collect all the bits that drop off. still wouldnt have anything else tho.

26th Apr 2012 3:09pm

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2626

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

Re: Loose pillar/roof section bolts

Froggy wrote:
After further investigation it became obvious that the roof section bolts connecting it to the body had come loose....Has anybody else had this problem with a newish vehicle?

Boet, LR Stellenbosch found out the entire top section of the tub was only holding on by one secured bolt. This was 2 yrs after we bought the 90 and 2 overland trips fully loaded with RTT, jerrycans, etc.

You're also in CL I see? If you see the driver of a blue Saab convertible waving at you, wave back

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26th Apr 2012 3:38pm

Froggy

Member Since: 01 Apr 2012
Location: Stellenbosch South Africa
Posts: 17

Re: Loose pillar/roof section bolts

Naks wrote:
Froggy wrote:
After further investigation it became obvious that the roof section bolts connecting it to the body had come loose....Has anybody else had this problem with a newish vehicle?

Boet, LR Stellenbosch found out the entire top section of the tub was only holding on by one secured bolt. This was 2 yrs after we bought the 90 and 2 overland trips fully loaded with RTT, jerrycans, etc.

You're also in CL I see? If you see the driver of a blue Saab convertible waving at you, wave back

Sure will Naks, Obviously your top will be down as it's always sunny in Gordans bay!! Flying the flag in a country full of Toyota's!

26th Apr 2012 3:55pm

nidge n

Member Since: 04 Feb 2012
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 719

Re: Loose pillar/roof section bolts

Froggy wrote:
Hi all,
I took delivery of my 2010 2.4 Puma yesterday.
As the day progressed I started to get a squeaking/rattle which seemed to come from the door pillar.
At first I thought it might have been the roof rack which they swopped over from my TD5, especially when I put my hand out of the window and pulled down on it and the noise got better.

After further investigation it became obvious that the roof section bolts connecting it to the body had come loose.

I took it to my local dealer who sorted it out straight away under warranty.

Has anybody else had this problem with a newish vehicle?
Is it likely to reoccur, especially as I do some serious off roading?

In all the years that I have run older Defenders, I have never had this problem.

Cheers,
Froggy.

please excuse my ignorance Froggy.

I may have a similar problem. How do you gain access to the bolts?

thanks in advance

Nidge

26th Aug 2012 5:17pm

Froggy

Member Since: 01 Apr 2012
Location: Stellenbosch South Africa
Posts: 17

Sorry Nidge,
I am not sure, I left it to Land Rover as it is still covered by the Warranty.
Froggy. Flying the flag in a country full of Toyota's!

26th Aug 2012 5:59pm

Happyoldgit

Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3471

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

Access is easy once you've got the side, rear and speaker panel trim out the way. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

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27th Aug 2012 7:08am

Regard

Member Since: 08 Dec 2011
Location: RSA
Posts: 251

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Orkney Grey

I know how to get rid of the speaker and rear(small) window trim but how do you get the large sliding window trim off without destroying clips etc....?

27th Aug 2012 7:37am

nidge n

Member Since: 04 Feb 2012
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 719

well i managed to check mine today before the rain. All ok, so now i have to look elsewhere for the squeaky, rattle above my head

youve got to love defenders

27th Aug 2012 5:08pm

sewin elwy

Member Since: 08 Aug 2012
Location: Snowdonia
Posts: 39

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

loose fastenings

Yep!

Mine too! most of the tub to roof bolts loose and some nuts rattling around in the channel....result, water leaks everywhere!!! I don't think that they forgot to tighten them, more that they just sneck them up as the are frightened of distorting the roof sides as the tub is much more rigid also distortion could cause leaks at the woefully inadequate foam gasket.

1st Feb 2013 9:31am

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