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| EWS Member Since: 29 Nov 2011 Location: Bristol Posts: 156   
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On Expedition Portal site, from across the pond.
Link below- http://www.expeditionportal.com/vehicules/...ender.html |
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22nd Apr 2012 9:19pm |
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| T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101  
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I like the back that only weighs 440 lbs
It's true tbh...or have left it to long and know have to play catch up |
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22nd Apr 2012 9:32pm |
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| lrmaniac Member Since: 04 Feb 2010 Location: Lisboa Posts: 762  
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"...the 122,460 people that purchased a Wrangler in 2011 are proof that Americans will actually buy a 'spartan' utility vehicle like the Defender"
Could not have said it better! I'm going to email this article to LR! Regards Joao '10 Land Rover Defender 110 CC '08 BMW F800GS '64 SIIA Forward Control '69 SIIA 109 ZA CKD _____________________________________________ You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you. |
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22nd Apr 2012 10:23pm |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10383
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I like the JK, the amount of kit available in the US is mind blowing
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23rd Apr 2012 7:33am |
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| JSG Member Since: 12 Jul 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2412 
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The four door Wrangler makes a good case for just how far off the mark Landrover are - it shows you can produce a modern vehicle with a decent engine and still retain the 'roots' and heritage. John
http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk 2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS |
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23rd Apr 2012 9:26am |
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| The Boy Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: East Northants Posts: 1459 
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Could not have said that bettetr myself  |
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23rd Apr 2012 12:52pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4722 
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Petition time, me thinks. Petition Land Rover to read this and then actively take note of it. Really good read. Bet you Tata will mass produce a great Defender utility for India but will be unable to get it into Europe due to various regulations. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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23rd Apr 2012 4:34pm |
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| mrandmrsh Member Since: 31 May 2010 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 692 
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A petition won't help. The accountants will ask marketing why 200,000 people from the UK signed it yet only 20,000 worldwide bought one. Marketing will say "cos we haven't got the DC100 to sell"" and that's that. 2015 110 USW XS in Santorini with premium contrast leather seats in tan/black, black headlining and with Dual Finish alloys (in the garage, now on Wolf rims with Goodyear MT/Rs)
2012 '62' 2.2 X-Tech 110 USW now gone ... 1984 90 soft top with full roll cage, 200 tdi engine etc now sold 2012 USW XS 2.2 "FUU" now gone.... |
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23rd Apr 2012 5:19pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1588 
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The other day I got dusted by a wrangler. Land Rover never bothered to keep the US market. Sounds like it could have been worth it 120,000 sales. Defender only sells 20,000 think they got it very wrong.
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23rd Apr 2012 5:24pm |
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| Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 422 
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Absolutely spot on. This comment sums up my feelings on this:
"With Land Rover there's always complaints about how the brand is moving away from it's roots; Jeep never really forgot them." This is where Land Rover are making a huge mistake. Something which will inevitably hurt them. I know people who have bought Land Rovers partially because of the Defender. 'At least it's proper offroad company'. Jeep proudly displays their Wrangler everywhere, Land Rover does not. In fact they seem ashamed of the Defender. Absolutely incredible. I admit to having a peek at those Unlimited Wranglers. They do seem pretty cool. |
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23rd Apr 2012 9:06pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1588
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The roots of a land rover was to make a vehicule to export. The current defender is missing out on so many countries.
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24th Apr 2012 7:41am |
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| willy eckerslike Member Since: 15 Jun 2009 Location: North yorks Posts: 1789 
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3834373.htm
Look pretty good though when lifted etc, Original Member Pie n Pea Club. 110 HCPU Tipper |
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24th Apr 2012 7:54am |
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| Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 422
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I don't think that's strictly true, although I agree the export market, and US market, is essential. That, and other things, do mean some changes are absolutely necessary for the Defender. But again, Jeep updated their Wrangler, without losing the sense of it being a Wrangler. I'm actually quite OK with losing things like air suspension, solid axles and whatnot, if it makes practical sense (there are offroad benefits to independent suspension, for instance). But it would be great to have a sense of evolution for the vehicle, and of serving the same appeal that the current Defender caters for so well. If we're stuck with only the DC100, then a Wrangler begins to look quite tempting. |
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24th Apr 2012 3:28pm |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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I had a play with one (a sahara) about two years ago. I got the salesman to take off all the doors and roof etc, they just lifted out, it's a fantatic and simple system. Oh, not to mention that even with that option to just take them off, the panel aligment and door seals are absolutely spot on. Not something that a defender can say really.
Also the inside was all compressed rubber with drain holes so very very easy to clean - just stuff a hose in and wash out all the mud etc. They're very good vehicles, as the sales numbers confirm, and those people who whine about them should try one. Ditto Landcruiser - the older ones are just SO much better than a defender in terms of capability and mechanicals. Having said that I still love the defender, just wish it was a bit more modern which hopefully the concept car will lead to. |
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24th Apr 2012 4:48pm |
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