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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580  
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How far do you want to go?
First suggestion use Mk1 eyeballs and engage brain! I would suggest you make up your own kit. Remember synthetic rope tends to be larger diameter then steel rope so get appropriate snatch block to what rope is fitted to winch. An 8274 is rated at 8000lbs, double line that and you are at a theoretical maximum of 16,000lbs or 7272 kg as anchor point on snatch block. Minimum 8,000 kg snatch block/strap etc for double lining. Extension line is good. 30m on drum + 30m extension line gives a good range. Tree strops, winch extension strap want to be POLYESTER for minimal stretch. Winch sail so people can see winch line. Stick to recogonised brands rather then el cheapo ebay items. Brendan A good ammo box fastened down to top of wheel arch for secure storage |
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6th Apr 2012 11:34pm |
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| xatzhs Member Since: 12 Dec 2010 Location: Northumberland & Down South Posts: 258 
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I literally understood about 30% of those words...  |
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6th Apr 2012 11:51pm |
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| Projectblue Member Since: 22 Nov 2011 Location: Devon Posts: 1096 
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Don't get a kit. You just pay more for a nice bag.
In addition to what Leeds has said: 1. Good gloves. 2. More than one snatch block 3. Tree strop 4. Rated shackles, different sizes 5. Kettle/thermos mug The latter is so you can have a brew whulst thinking about what to do, rather than rushing in with the kit! That's not aimed at the OP as such, but just general information. |
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7th Apr 2012 12:02am |
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| excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5842 
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I got my 12000lbs winch from http://www.dborc.co.uk/goodwinch/ at one of the shows.
Along with the winch I have since purchased Various shackles Tree strops Various other strops Winch gloves (2 pairs in case one gets soaked) Swing open snatch pulley (beware some have a bit of play in them allowing the cable to get between the outer casing and the pulley. and additionally also from DBORC I got the recovery swivels that go on the front bumper So far the winch has stood up-to winching dead rally cars up banks and out of ditches rather well. 1999 Defender TD5 110 Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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7th Apr 2012 8:16am |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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What Brendan and blue said. I've never used a winch sail though. Just get people not directly involved well out of the way (full circle diameter of double the rope etc)
2 snatch blocks if not three. two to three tree strops of different lengths. plasma or cable extention depending on whats on the winch - invaluable Good gloves - if plasma etc then any gloves but if cable, get kevlar gloves bridle at least 5 correctly rated (and stamped) shackles Depends how much you get into it really, but I also have a chain for moving a snatch block off a tree to get it to the middle of the track. Goodwinch sells all this, as does Brendan I think oh, and go on a course to learn how to use it correctly and safely. I see some horrendous things with winches when out on lanes or off tarmac. Lots of people seem to bot on a winch and just crack on - they can be lethal so training is really helpful. |
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7th Apr 2012 11:02am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8006  
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Do that bit first, see what they use and make your own shout from there. Dont buy a kit, buy the minimum and expand on it as you need it. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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7th Apr 2012 7:49pm |
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| excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5842
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Anyone recommend a winching course company? 1999 Defender TD5 110
Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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7th Apr 2012 7:52pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 
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What they said  . Doing a course will give you an understanding as to what is required kit wise and H&S wise.
I could organise a winch training day/s. All you will need to do is turn up and get stuck in
Rate would be about £80 per day PP vehicles and kit provided 130's have feeling's as well you know  |
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7th Apr 2012 9:22pm |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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Not to take anything away from Andrews experience but we do them too, similar rates, NW based. Can do one person but 2-3 is better (makes it cheaper PP)
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7th Apr 2012 10:49pm |
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| TJ101 Member Since: 30 May 2007 Location: Taunton Somerset Posts: 3748  
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I would say, one of Goodwinch's courses would be ideal
see http://www.dborc.co.uk/goodwinch/ then Courses on the left hand menu California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1 Main Brian James Trailer Dealer for South West UK |
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8th Apr 2012 10:06am |
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| tatra805 Member Since: 16 Aug 2011 Location: Dolany Posts: 436  
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to add something more to the 'kit'
What turned out to be the most useful to me are chains. While straps might be more friendly and can be used for moderate snatch recoveries i don't use them but as tree-strap. too much stretching and elastic effects, even at wiching they build up energy and then pop-free the object. I had treebutts popping up above my head with them when the core root snapped. Chains are the answer to me, much much safer. 2 lengths of grade 8 or 10 chains with assorted hooks will help in a lot of situations rigging up. No stretch and bombproof. Heavy and not cheap, yes but they last forever. Also for your treebutts, slings and synthetics will get damaged easily, chains not. (damage to tree is not an issue here) Once you have damage you have no way of defining how strong the strap still is and you are increasing ''danger''. 1. 4m fix hook and ring 
2. 4m ring and open end + settable connection hook (no idea what it is called officially) With this you set the length anywhere along the chain, VERY handy in many situations. Click image to enlarge Just for safety's sake, never use them for snatch recoveries. And never forget these chains are stronger than your chassis. Regarding shackles, stay away from DIY store stuff. Or not rated and lethal or rated but not for this type of application. Optical both shackles are same thickness etc one rated at 0,91 ton (DIY market) second at 3,25 ton (rigging company). 8x price difference. Click image to enlarge my 2cents :D Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  |
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8th Apr 2012 11:32am |
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