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mse



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Steering Arm Bolt
Bought a steering guard (slightly painful subject i wont discuss as the thing wont fit, but hey) anyway I removed the bolt that the steering arm bolt goes through (through the chassis) and its seriously rusted.

and the amount of rust isnt surface - the bolt is hammered.

Ill be asking the dealer to replace when it goes in next, but it makes me wonder. Mike
Post #12860 11th Jul 2009 8:35am
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Grockle



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Hi Mike,as we've said before there is no anti corrosion used on them now. 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.
Post #12865 11th Jul 2009 9:13am
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mse



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Im not talking the chassis though (which mine did have anti-corrosion, albeit it partial) and obviously day 1 was waxolyed by me.

This is a load bearing bolt - which is very worrying. Mike
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I had my new truck 'Kleentec'ed by 'Before 'n' After' of Newbury (now Rugby and advertised in LRO) and I must say that after 2 years the whole of the underneath is fantastic - what a great job! It's also guaranteed for 10 years - take note Land Rover!
joe JLS
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Indeed it is Mike. 2.4 90 XS
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mse



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jlerra wrote:
I had my new truck 'Kleentec'ed by 'Before 'n' After' of Newbury (now Rugby and advertised in LRO) and I must say that after 2 years the whole of the underneath is fantastic - what a great job! It's also guaranteed for 10 years - take note Land Rover!
joe


Im not going down that road Laughing

no the issue really isnt kleentec or not, waxoyl or not - this bolt wont get covered by either and has rusted (badly) in 18 months or so so even with ours "protected" in whatever way you choose, this bolt has rusted heavily around the points it would be experiencing the most shear inside the steering drop arm bolt hole (and if it failed wouldnt be kleentec's warranty as its not related or a covered area) this is a land rover issue - with serious i would say safety implications. Mike
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Sounds as though it's back to the dealer and threats!!!
Joe JLS
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Then when they've replaced it, remove it again and slap a load of copper slip on it.
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When I got my puma I sprayed all visible bolts, nuts etc with corrision x
http://www.corrosionx.com/marine.html
and when i undo anything I coat it in this and bolt back in
Friend is an helicopter pilot/engineer in Mayalsia(high humidity) and they use this stuff on every bolt , nut etc acts as a rust preventer between steel and aluminium and makes them easy to undo, prevents rusting, deformation of airframes, used on old td5 same way, every bolt would come undone easily as well
very good stuff and if had been used in that bolt thread I am sure you would have had very little rust if any.
proven for a lot time
Very Happy
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mse



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I do a similar thing, grease, copper grease or waxoyl...obviously though, this bolt is a production bolt and was last seen by a line worker down the road in Solihull.

If i hadnt bought a steering guard i wouldnt have looked at it and i would suggest 90% of people wouldnt. I certainly cant afford to undo everybolt to ensure its not rusted! Mike
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mse wrote:
I do a similar thing, grease, copper grease or waxoyl...obviously though, this bolt is a production bolt and was last seen by a line worker down the road in Solihull.

If i hadnt bought a steering guard i wouldnt have looked at it and i would suggest 90% of people wouldnt. I certainly cant afford to undo everybolt to ensure its not rusted!

No exactly, it is a worry alright!!!!
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I think that area where the bolt is, is a water trap anyway. with it clamped at either end, even if the water itself doesn't get in (which it probably will), once there's some condenstion it'll just eat away at it.

I've pulled some of those bolts out before and they look like they've dissolved in the middle (not right through, but a few MM of the outer diameter)
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When I fitted my steering guard and removed this bolt water did come out. I think it is a water trap.

What are people's thoughts on drilling a hole in the underside of the chassis to let water out? With it filed smooth and suitably anti-rust proofed and maintained wouldn't this be a good idea to let water out?
Post #12937 13th Jul 2009 8:23pm
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