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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897   
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Designed to increase kids programming knowledge when what we need is a manufacturing industry.
That doesn't create money. The socket on the one shown on TV had 'Made in China' printed on it.   |
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29th Feb 2012 6:09pm |
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| RFT Member Since: 13 Nov 2010 Location: Cheshire Posts: 685  
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Spot on Laurie, if children what to work in processor or application development they need to learn their trade from first principals, but the majority of our off spring need to be focused on manufacturing not playing with a techie toy.
The guy on Radio 4 this morning induced me to scream at the radio all the way to work, he had the communication skills of a geek and based his argument on the assumption that we must force all our children to develop apps if not they will not have a future. Computers are a tool, just one of the many we use, I for one have a lot more respect for the craftsmen in the tool room at most Engineering Works than I do for the average joe in the computer industry. 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper |
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29th Feb 2012 6:16pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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yes and no, the guy on R4 this morning explained that "ICT" now is basic IT/Microsoft windows / office skills and not computer programming pre-sey. The Raspberry-Pi is a cheap linux pc with free development software, the idea being it opens up the world of development to all ... no bad thing (I had a ZX81 and loved it). Where do these first principles come from without access to hardware? I agree design and manufacturing has been hit over the last 20 years but the brightest have not gone into IT, they are probably in Banking. Horses for courses  |
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29th Feb 2012 6:25pm |
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| RFT Member Since: 13 Nov 2010 Location: Cheshire Posts: 685
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I agree ICT teaching is a waste of time, it is the modern equivalent of teaching every girl to type and cook because she will be in the typing pool until she gets pregnant. The MS packages will be obsolete by the time an 11 year old leaves school.
It is all about presentation and not content, I'd prefer to see quality work written in pen that dross printed in colour with flashy borders. But if a child wants to drive a processor they can pop to maplin and buy the bits and build it. If they want to programme apps they just need a Linux machine and a teacher with talent. I learnt how to be a Mechanical Engineer with out a welding set or a lathe in my bed room, our computer industry is based upon children who sat in bedrooms with closed curtains in the early 1980's playing with computers that were so poorly designed and built that they made the Allegro seem like a quality vehicle. That is why we still have to put up with poor design and poor reliability from electrical equipment and a reliance on badges and fixes. 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper |
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29th Feb 2012 6:44pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069
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or buy a raspberry pi .. and enjoy developing and understanding computing (engineering is not for everyone) |
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29th Feb 2012 6:50pm |
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| Surrey Rover Member Since: 20 Dec 2010 Location: Surrey Posts: 360 |
I work in software, I sell it to Investment banks.
I started out being forced into a trade, I got qualified, left and got a job in the city. When my kids get older, will I tell them to get a trade/manufacuting and get in at the grass routes, no frigging way. Nick 2.2 110 Tipper |
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29th Feb 2012 7:00pm |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10383
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I don't know if any of you watched Boyd Coddington build the Alumatub?
The old guy in the workshop who made the body by hand??? Now he's a guy who's got some skills I'd like  |
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29th Feb 2012 11:09pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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I like the idea simply because it might make kids realise there's actually something in the boxes they spend/waste hours a day using. A bit of simple programming will also remind them how much work something like Word actually required.
I doubt the Gooseberry Tart will spawn many programming geniuses but it might be one of the few "real" things kids get to do in schools these days. I'm proud to say all my kids (girls and boys) can solder, rivet, sew, use the correct glue etc. whether they wanted to learn it or not. I'm all for teaching kids to respect other peoples trades. That's why I encourage mine to try everything - success or failure - it's all a learning experience. p.s. I think I might even order one and torture myself with a bit of "education" Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... Last edited by ZeDefender on 29th Feb 2012 11:32pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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29th Feb 2012 11:23pm |
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| Shax Member Since: 05 Oct 2010 Location: London Posts: 391 
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Maplins used to be good years ago, when they actually sold electronic components, and had knowledgeable staff.... Now their knowledge seems to be limited to looking in the maplin catalog! Try asking the numpties for a 50ohm and 75ohm BNC plug... ... ,-------, .. I [__][_]|__ .. I __ |"_|"__| .. "(o)====(o)" ^^_-^-_^-^_^^^^^--^^^^ PAUL G7ALW 14.200 USB 26FB458 / 27.275 SSB |
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29th Feb 2012 11:25pm |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015  
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Gutted..... For a second I thought it was a typo for Raspberry Pie....... Now that is something I would want to take apart, and investigate what is on the inside..... YUMMIE!!!
Click image to enlarge Insert 'drool smiley' Glyn   |
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1st Mar 2012 5:35am |
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| chiefstoker Member Since: 11 Oct 2010 Location: Weston-super-Mud Posts: 897 
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.......... i'd prefer to do that to a cherry pie glyn
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1st Mar 2012 6:02am |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328
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1st Mar 2012 6:30am |
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| iruffell Member Since: 03 Sep 2010 Location: Marlow, Buckinghamshire Posts: 343 
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Ordered mine at 6am yesterday.
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1st Mar 2012 8:46am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6637 
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Moved to
Please keep off topic conversations out of the "General" section, thanks. 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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