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| totoD110 Member Since: 26 Nov 2008 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 86  |
I scheduled for an oil change for my tranny oil. After we took out the magnetic drain plug there's several metal shaving sticking its has a brass or bronze color:blub:
We filled it up again and drive around for 15 minutes and drained it and found no more chips at the plug. Drained it again and off I go. Shifting was a lot better after that oil change.. Should I get worry about it? Its my first time to check and change my tranny oil after my warranty expires. Can I still claim a warranty for this? 
I think its the syncronizer that has been shave off  |
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17th Jan 2012 11:10am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638  
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How much metal shavings are we talking about? Did you take a picture? -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged 
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17th Jan 2012 11:23am |
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| totoD110 Member Since: 26 Nov 2008 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 86 |
sorry no pics. not that much that covers the entire magnet of the drain plug. |
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17th Jan 2012 12:04pm |
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| totoD110 Member Since: 26 Nov 2008 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 86 |
yeah the transmission gearbox. And yeah its just a few flakes. 40,000 kms already. 1st time to change the oil and was surprised of what i saw. ill just monitor it every 6 months then  |
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17th Jan 2012 12:09pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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When you say "flakes", do you mean cornflakes or a bit of dandruff?
I changed my oil at 9000 km (before first service) because I was having changing problems. There was a bit of "dandruff" on the plug but I assumed that wasn't bad for a cheap Chinese gearbox. Runs much better now. I wouldn't worry yet - nothing to do anyway unless it breaks 
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17th Jan 2012 12:24pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2415  
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It is normal. If you could see the internal magnets you would be amaze how much metal they collect
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17th Jan 2012 12:52pm |
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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5013 
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Thought mine was going to get changed yesterday on it's first service but they now renew...
Manual Gearbox oil at 120K
Transfer Box oil 48K Front and Rear axle 48K Engine Coolant 120k Ancillary Drive Belt 120K Will change the gearbox and transfer box oil soon I think...what oil are you meant to use again? The idea of this is to keep the servicing bills down apparently to compete with other marques. The coolant for instance is not changed for 10 years or 120K but they said they do check it effectiveness  The example by the service manager was compare the routine maintenance of the TD5 to the TD4. The TD4 has been stretched out a lot more to reduce customer service costs. Important when people are comparing running costs between marques when buying new apparently |
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17th Jan 2012 1:37pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2415
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These are all synthetic oils and long life coolant so they do last long periods of time (unless water goes into the tranny). And actually those are min intervals. Kind of fun though to change all these fluids
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17th Jan 2012 1:43pm |
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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5013
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17th Jan 2012 1:47pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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I've now used Motul Motylgear 75W-90 (full-synthetic) in three cars (including the 110) and found it to be very good (and sort out some problems) - bit expensive though
Not sure if LR would know it wasn't their own brand Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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17th Jan 2012 2:03pm |
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| rossy Member Since: 29 Nov 2010 Location: Co. Roscommon Posts: 1296  
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I've often changed gearbox oils in other cars I've owned over the years and have never seen metal shards in the drained oil to the extent that was evident in the Puma box after a mere 300 miles.
As there is no strainer/filter in gearboxes I can only assume that those particles have an abrasive effect on synchros over time. It has been well documented on this forum that owners of hard worked (regular towing) Pumas have had gearbox problems so just putting 2+2 together I thought it best to change the oil annually for the sake of a couple of hours contortionism doing the damn job ! |
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17th Jan 2012 8:44pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Exactly my plan
It may be a flimsy gearbox but treat it well as it's the only one you've got  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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17th Jan 2012 9:08pm |
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| rossy Member Since: 29 Nov 2010 Location: Co. Roscommon Posts: 1296
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and if you do it yourself you'll need a neck brace for a couple of days afterwards
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17th Jan 2012 9:37pm |
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| bm52 Member Since: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Kent Posts: 2189 
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do you have to take the driver seat box cover off to get to the gearbox filler hole?
last time i changed oils was on my 300. engine oil - no drips, tbox - no drips, gearbox - it went everywhere except in the bucket and when i went to fill it up using a hose pipe and a funnel i missed the ruddy hole and dumped a cupfull on the drive. anyway - now in my last year of warranty and as i do such low mileage i have not done the 6 month oil changes so far. will do so this year if i take it down through France. BM52 |
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17th Jan 2012 9:49pm |
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