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ZeDefender



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Heat Shot washer heater
Anyone got one of these?:

http://www.brookwell.co.uk/item/8152/heat-...ter-heater

I'd be interested to know what you think and how to do the wiring Wink

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Post #113371 7th Jan 2012 10:28pm
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Lorryman100



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Cobs did it a wee while ago with the Alphatherm unit.

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic4787.h...alphatherm
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Wonder if the disco3 heated squirters could be retrofitted?

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dgardel's your man for those jobbies Thumbs Up
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Lorryman100 wrote:
Cobs did it a wee while ago with the Alphatherm unit.

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic4787.h...alphatherm


Thanks for the info Thumbs Up
That looks very interesting for me - have to find out if the Brookwell one triggers on overvoltage too Very Happy Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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I have a few questions:

1. does it stop the washer bottle from freezing ? (No)
2. do you run the risk of cracking your windscreen?
3. does it draw the hot water back into the washer botter ? (otherwise it might freeze the nozzle & pipes)
4. £180 seems a bit steep

IMHO the perfect system would:

1. warm the washer fluid
2. push the water up to the jets, then pump it back to clear the pipes
3. cost about £40
Post #113403 8th Jan 2012 8:55am
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Well,

Yes if the water is hot enough it will crack the windscreen, but I don't think they could get the water hot enough for that.
You do have to be careful of what water you use as heating water and then breathing in the steam is how legionella is contracted!
And no if the water bottle is frozen it probably won't work Thumbs Up Russell
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ZeDefender



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All good points to be considered.

My antifreeze-wash goes down to -20 so the system won't freeze. My problem is that Autobahn driving is disgusting in bad weather and the wash is constantly being used. Moreover, the wind-chill makes the wash very "goopy", so warming it a bit might make a big difference.

bpman - your system sounds better but I'm not that technical Sad
Worth thinking about though before buying...

Incidentally, if I do go for the Heat Shot, once the live is through the top of the bulkhead, what's the neatest route to the battery?

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Range rover sport heated nozzles are under £10 a piece....
Post #113433 8th Jan 2012 11:09am
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The Heatshot was added to GM cars in the USA not too long ago. There were recalls due to the units and fires. GM basically put the company making them out of business by suing for the cost of those recalls. I think fuses were externally added to get over the issue. Now it looks the same units are being sold in the UK through distributors from another company who bought the rights to the product. I personally wouldn't install them unless I knew for sure those fire issues from the USA were solved through some type of design change.

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/11...ns-deeper/

I haven't personally installed a set, but being as the history may not be known on this side of the pond, I figured I should at least put it out there for you guys to have all the info.
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I often wondered if the element out of a 12v travel kettle would work if sealed into the washer bottle. 2021 Defender 110 X-Dynamic HSE D300 MHEV
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GarethR wrote:
I often wondered if the element out of a 12v travel kettle would work if sealed into the washer bottle.


that's a good idea... also there was a mod to use peugeot spray blades on the wipers to spray the water.

i guess you need to think about all the points of failure for washer jets, what extremes you are going to use them in and design something. RR heated nozzles sounds like a good starting point, pop them into the bonnet and loose the stupid LR standard washers, a heating type element with a cut out (you need is warm not boiling) that is switchable.

time for a think ... maybe DG will see this too... if Olaf (entreq) sees it, expect something shiney and expensive Laughing
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The antifreeze in washer fluid is usually methanol.
The heat generated under the bonnet (especially after the engine is turned off) will evaporate it from the washer fluid.
After a while it doesn't work any more. Sad
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Laurie wrote:
The antifreeze in washer fluid is usually methanol.


Might also affect the paintwork ?
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bpman wrote:
Laurie wrote:
The antifreeze in washer fluid is usually methanol.


Might also affect the paintwork ?

Use vodka instead..... Rolling Eyes
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