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Betsy



Member Since: 05 Aug 2024
Location: Derbyshire
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 1999 Defender 110 Td5 HT Coniston Green
Camper electrical advice

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Good evening all, I’m after some advice please, I’m planning to do my 12v wiring and install this week, I have the split charge system already in place as it runs the diesel heater.

My plan is 6mm cables from the battery to a isolator switch then a 30a trip circuit breaker then to a fuse box, I will then individually wire 6mm to the 12v cigar lighter as this will run my fridge(should I wire this through one of the switches as is would be nice for it to be switched rather than having to unplug it?)
Then I will wire 2 sets of 2MM cables from the fuse box to the switch unit then one set to a 8watt inside light and one set to a 15watt rear outside light.
Should I wire the 2 usbs on there own cables?

I was an electrician years ago so relatively competent! Just not sure on auto electrics.

I started to panic abit when i saw some pictures of these multi switch panels melted! What do you think of these? They do come pre wired on the back with inline fuses but I’m going to remove all this as I imagine this is what could cause them to overload

Any expert advice would be greatly appreciated 👍🏻
Post #1060722 16th Feb 2025 7:43pm
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revd



Member Since: 20 Apr 2024
Location: England
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I wouldn't run the fridge through a cigar lighter - they always seem a bit flakey - but hard wire from the auxiliary fuse box - the fewer the connections the better; voltage drops each time you cut and join a circuit and reduces its efficiency - I ran an Engels fridge on a 90 from a single standard battery set up and never had starting problems - and your USBs, as with any circuit calculate the max current draw and make sure you have some reserve
Post #1060727 16th Feb 2025 8:46pm
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macfrank



Member Since: 05 Nov 2015
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Germany 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
Well, it's all about correct wire size for the max. current at a given length.
This will avoid both overheating of the wires and loss of voltage (voltage drop) due to the wire's resistance. The loads you have mentioned shouldn't be a problem. Diesel heater and fridge are around 25-30W each, but with a higher inital current during startup.

There are tables and calculators online.
6mm^2 is good for 20A and 2m, loosing 0.2V "on the way" at 20A.
2mm^2 at 1.2A (15W) gets you 10m with a loss of 0.2V.

Then choose the fuses' size to protect those wires. As a rule of thumb fuses should be 20% above max. current to not overheat and do the opposite of what they should (prevent fire).

Also choose automotive wires (FLRY), good crimps with a proper crimping tool and glue-lined heat-shrink tubes.

Note that those switches have different ratings for AC and DC. Max. DC current is usually much smaller than AC.

Also, I always draw a diagram with all the currents, lenghts, wire sizes and fuse sizes. Easy to think it all through that way and don't mix anything up during assembly.
Post #1060728 16th Feb 2025 9:02pm
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34064



Member Since: 12 Dec 2023
Location: South Central
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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 HT Alaska White
I have hard wired my fridge into a super seal plug as it kept coming out of the cigarette socket 110 Td5 Ex Utilities slowly converting into a pop top camper one day

Build thread:https://www.defender2.net/forum/post1024784.html#1024784
Post #1060813 17th Feb 2025 11:05pm
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Betsy



Member Since: 05 Aug 2024
Location: Derbyshire
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 1999 Defender 110 Td5 HT Coniston Green
Thanks everyone for the help, it’s really appreciated, il definitely look into a hard wired option for the fridge as I agree the plug soon wobbles loose.
This is a daft question but obviously I’m taking my
Live from my leisure battery, but due to how crammed in the two batteries are under the passenger seat it’s impossible to get to the negative terminal on the leisure battery without removing them, would it be ok for me to take my negative to the other starter battery instead
Thanks
Post #1060948 19th Feb 2025 7:01pm
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GeorgeE



Member Since: 10 Feb 2025
Location: Wanborough
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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi CSW Venetian Red
Assuming your two earths are joined at the battery point by a decent cable then it doesn't really matter which end of that cable you connect to, either the leisure battery end or the engine battery end will be fine. That said I would avoid making a load of earth connections on the battery terminal, it is a real PITA when you come to swap the battery out. Take it from the battery to a dedicated earth stud mounted to one side and run them all to that.
Post #1060996 20th Feb 2025 5:18pm
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