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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2917  
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l wonder what the "new lines of enquiry" are. l did have a couple of questions such as why the collision avoidance system didn't intervene.
Maybe it doesn't work with stationary objects. Although it's supposed to stop distracted drivers from shunting the car in front if it brakes unexpectedly. |
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24th Oct 2024 5:55pm |
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| Nuclear Nick Member Since: 21 Aug 2021 Location: Southwest Posts: 288
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Yes, that is my question too (see my post on previous page). And damn right it should work with a stationary object.
Clearly the family have many similar questions and the Police now realise they’ve dropped the ball on this very tragic case. The family deserve better. 23.5MY 90 V8 Carpathian grey |
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25th Oct 2024 8:11pm |
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| WizzardPrang Member Since: 05 Nov 2020 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 160 
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The AEB can be overridden by the driver, eg by applying the brake or presumably by mashing the accelerator. Current vehicle: 2020 Defender 110S
Gone: Defender 90 HT 200Tdi, Discovery Sport, Freelander 2 Insta: wizzardprang |
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25th Oct 2024 9:03pm |
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| LR Nuts Member Since: 10 Aug 2022 Location: UK Posts: 1200 
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm27dg7e7ddo
Driver rearrested over girls' school crash deaths |
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28th Jan 2025 11:49am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2917
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l wonder why.
Originally determined that she suffered an epileptic seizure. |
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28th Jan 2025 6:51pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1121  
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Pressure to re investigate because the initial outcome did not meet the expectations of the parents and maybe some of the public.
I am sure most of us don't know what it is like to loose a child, but I can imagine there will be a desire to see some sort of accountability. Lets trust the system to relook at all the facts and then conclude again. |
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28th Jan 2025 7:22pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5054 
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People nowadays expect to blame someone or have someone accountable.
Its hard for people to accept "things happen that are really horrible" Im sure that driver did not want to kill those poor kids as much as the parents wish they hadnt died and we would all be grief struck if it happened to us. Sadly we need to stop focusing on blame in all areas of life. Mike |
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29th Jan 2025 9:20am |
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| Crazymind Member Since: 11 Jun 2024 Location: Glasgow Posts: 205
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An additional enquiry wasn’t avoidable.
They will all go through the pain again. I doubt there will be something new to discover. Just a few days ago my friend’s mum, 60 years old healthy woman, had parked the car uphill. After shopping she went back to the car, start it as usual, and yet for unknown reason the car drove downhill, at walking speed, ending into a wall, knocking down the retaining wall of a house, ended in to the garden and upside down into roof. No aribag explosion, car not even much damaged. She can’t explain what happened. I think she panicked, when the car was moving (DSG box) and instead of breaking I bet shy pushed the gas pedal. |
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29th Jan 2025 2:16pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5054
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So easy this sort of thing.
I bet in Wimbledon the car couldnt do AEB or similar because the driver was on the accelerate or something. If someone had done something deliberate - like drink driving, fine...but i think we should review a lot of how we treat and criminalise people Mike |
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29th Jan 2025 3:04pm |
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| XplusYplusZ Member Since: 16 Aug 2021 Location: UK Posts: 507 |
The defense argued her epilepsy had never previously manifested itself, and the Crown Prosecution Service attributed the incident to the driver suffering an epileptic seizure.
It's a legal requirement to inform the DVLA if you have epilepsy, you may still be able to drive if it's treatable. Apparently, detecting Epilepsy is very difficult unless you've had multiple seizures. I imagine the police would only re-open the case if there were more evidence or a weakness in the original case. It must be devastating for the driver if the above was true, and living with what happened would be punishment enough if it was a freak first seizure. But if the driver had known she had epilepsy and wasn't getting it treated and didn't inform the DVLA, that would be characterized as dangerous driving. A conviction would require this to be proven beyond reasonable doubt - which could be difficult. So perhaps there's evidence to suggest the driver did know about her condition, or had had seizures previously.. Or perhaps this line of questioning hadn't been investigated to a conclusion because of it's difficulty. Either way, I'm glad the case is being taken seriously and the families will hopefully be given what they need - clarity on the reason behind their childrens' deaths. |
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29th Jan 2025 3:24pm |
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| Crazymind Member Since: 11 Jun 2024 Location: Glasgow Posts: 205
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My son had suffered of Febrile Seizure for his first 5 years of Life.
Every time he had a fever, seizure would manifesting. As parents it is something you do not want to experience. If something like this happens you call immediately an ambulance. No way you leave it untreated. If you have Never seen it it looks like the person is dying. We would then travel and move around at any time with 2 kits of anti-epileptic drug. After administration ( if the seizure last more than 5 minutes) we immediately call the ambulance because the drug slow down the heart beats and it could result in stopping your heart). If the driver had previously suffered from Seizure she would have known. So the Hospital and GP. |
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29th Jan 2025 3:47pm |
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