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MarkBrown Member Since: 03 Oct 2022 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 499 |
There are lots of variables to consider. I've not had the Bfg Km3's so don't know about those, but I've had the older Bfg M/T's both new sets and old inherited sets. The new ones were fine, perhaps on the harder side but the old ones were horrible - hard, slippery and cracked. The Toyo M/T's I've now got are excellent for me, as we're the Kumho M/T 51, but I generally use them up in a few years, so I don't know what they would be like when 'old'. The next set will be the Toyo's again, so long as they still make them. 1983 110 automatic OM606
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24th Jan 2025 9:14am |
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Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 528 |
I dont know what will happen in a few years. Presumably, the market for M/T is going to shrink because M/T make problems with wheel sensors. The "New Defender" (Disco Defender) doesn't accept rough tyres for instance.
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24th Jan 2025 9:50am |
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Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5878 |
Heh Joe, I asked about the following tyre on another post. Cooper Discoverer Rugged Trek Released by Cooper a year ago, it's designed to sit between an AT and MT, i.e. road biased (AT) with chunkier looks (MT). What's more, it has whisper technology to overcome the larger tread pattern and keep them quiet on tarmac, and siping for a full 3PMSF rating for winter use. And they've even got two different side-wall patterns so you can decide just how chunky/aggressive you want to go. Excellent reviews and ratings across the board, professionals and consumers alike. Perfect tyre? No idea whether they're available in the UK, or indeed the EU yet (ever?), but perhaps worth a call if you think the look is badass enough for you? Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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24th Jan 2025 10:07am |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17539 |
I'd be very interested to see a pic of your Defender on 7.5R16 KM3s to get an impressions of the overall proportions. Any chance you would be willing to post a pic? I've run BFG KMs on my Disco2 and Defender for 23 years now (and something like 550k miles in total) without any issues, that includes the original KM, the KM2, and the KM3. My impression is that the compound has become softer with each generation which has shortened the life expectancy but generally improved the road manners without detriment to the off-road performance. My original set of KMs lasted 100,000 miles (admittedly they were well-worn at the end but still fully legal and usable on-road, not so great off-road, but I just wanted to see if 100k miles on one set of tyres was possible). The KM3s seems to be good for 60k miles before the tread is worn to the point that off-road performance is compromised. I've never (yet) had adhesion issues on tarmac, wet or dry, and only once locked a wheel under braking on the road. I've never had issues with the tyres hardening, but possibly I wear them out before they are old enough to deteriorate. That being said I would like to see what a Defender with 7.5R16 KM3s looks like. |
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24th Jan 2025 10:12am |
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Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 528 |
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24th Jan 2025 8:03pm |
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Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 528 |
Lovely isn't it ?
Photo taken in December 2024 in Morocco (Oasis Tata) |
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24th Jan 2025 8:12pm |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17539 |
Very nice š and the tyres suit. Many thanks.
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24th Jan 2025 8:20pm |
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Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 528 |
Have been thinking about Bridgestone Dueler 001 A/T
But no. Better not change |
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24th Jan 2025 8:32pm |
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landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5788 |
Memories. |
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24th Jan 2025 8:46pm |
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Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 782 |
My Trac Edges went hard, although that was many years ago. They weren't that old in real terms either. Very very skittish in the wet and would easily lock the wheels or slide. My brother also has some original AT's which are the same and despite loads of tread are rubbish off road, likely because of being hard. His newer KO2's are a transformational different. The KM3's have also been fine and the KM2s. The KM3s are in 255/85, but here are the KM2's in 7.50 x 16 (pickup in the middle) Click image to enlarge These are 7.50 x 16 Yokohama X-MT's, truly awesome off road tyres for UK terrain. Click image to enlarge And these are some 7.00 x 16 remoulds. Really narrow being 7.00 sized and as a remould are very similar height to the proper 7.50's. I use these for trialing, although I've also green laned on them. They ride and handle way better than you'd think on road, but on a nice refined vehicle you'd certainly notice them over milder MTs. I had them fitted to a Tdi power Series III 88, so not what you'd called refined anyway! Click image to enlarge |
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25th Jan 2025 3:25pm |
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landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5788 |
I find the old BFGs used to get hard and loose their grip, but as each newer version comes out they get softer, last less time, get better on road, and no longer suffer with less road grip as they age, just lose their ability off road os the tread depth decreases.
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25th Jan 2025 4:04pm |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17539 |
It only took me 4 years to put 100k on my original KMs so they may not have been old enough to get hard!
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25th Jan 2025 9:22pm |
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