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dave m2



Member Since: 11 Dec 2016
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England 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Firenze Red
Screenwash bottle insulation
Has anyone ever insulated the screen wash bottle with anything, screen wash bottle was cleaned out and filled with neat winter screen wash and was still frozen at the weekend.
Post #1057588 16th Jan 2025 8:11pm
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custom90



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Post #1057591 16th Jan 2025 8:26pm
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Zed



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
You can buy screenwash that won’t freeze. I use Autoglym Ultimate as you can dilute it according to temperature. WARNING.
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Post #1057596 16th Jan 2025 9:01pm
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Scotm



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Scotland 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Orkney Grey
I usually use this stuff from Costco neat all year round. It has never frozen up here in NE Scotland.



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I also extended the pipe to the jets and have a section coiled round a coolant pipe to heat it up too.
Post #1057599 16th Jan 2025 9:10pm
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DSC-off



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
If you insulate the washer bottle it doesn’t prevent the jets freezing up.
The front jets are very exposed on the bulkhead.
Using a -10C or -20C fluid is the way to go in the winter.
Post #1057606 16th Jan 2025 9:29pm
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dave m2



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England 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Firenze Red
Thanks for the replies, on closer inspection it's all season screen wash not winter 🤦🏻‍♂️ so my own fault..🤷🏻‍♂️
Post #1057626 17th Jan 2025 7:36am
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markb110



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England 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
Webasto used to have a product called the Hot Shot which warmed up the entire screen wash system.

No idea if this is still available.

The problem in the UK is by the time you think you need something like this the annual two week cold spell is over and Spring is starting….

Terrafirma did something similar but doesn’t look to be available anymore, not to say that one of the dealers may still have it on a shelf somewhere.

You could DIY a 12v coffee cup warming element if it will fit through the washer bottle filler neck.

However as previous mentioned that won’t stop the jets from freezing over.
Post #1057633 17th Jan 2025 8:52am
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LR Nuts



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........ and that is if LR decide to fit the Heated Jets !!!! the mega money New Defender doesn't have them, unless you order the Icelandic Pack.
Post #1057639 17th Jan 2025 9:45am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
It really isn't difficult to provide hot screenwash. The Webasto kit, as I recall, was just a heat exchanger that you connected into the heater lines of the cooling system so that the screenwash was heated as it passed to the nozzles, and this is very easy to do (just extend the screenwash line and wrap it a few times round a coolant hose or heater hose - bingo, heated screenwash).

I've found that the more pressing problem in very cold weather is not the fluid freezing either in the reservoir or at the nozzle (that just tells me I got the mix wrong) but it is the wipers freezing to the point where they cease to be flexible and as a result do a very inadequate job of wiping. It is possible to buy heated wipers, since countries like Canada, where they have real winters, use them, but they are extremely expensive and generally far to big to fit our Defenders. Heated wipers would be a very useful option.
Post #1057645 17th Jan 2025 10:56am
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Mo Murphy



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I think they should have made a heated Land Rover 😁
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.

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Post #1057651 17th Jan 2025 12:23pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
They did make a very well-heated Land-Rover, it was called the TDCi.

On a Series One, the Smiths or Clayton fug-stirrer get hot enough to burn the hairs off the passengers legs. On a Puma, the heater can do it to both driver and passenger and at the same time! It can make the lower dash too hot to touch. It is almost frightening how much heat can come out, epsecially when you don't want it to.

Mind you the heater is completely uncontrollable and the temperature fluctuates wildly in a rather reassuring "Land-Rover typical bad design" manner.
Post #1057657 17th Jan 2025 1:12pm
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landy andy



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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver
They also managed to make the TDCi really hot on hot days unlike the superior Td5 that is lovely and cool with FRESH air on a summers day Whistle Whistle Whistle


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Post #1057659 17th Jan 2025 1:15pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
They never really got it right, did they? Rolling Eyes



It's probably a good thing that in the end they stopped making interesting vehicles altogether and focussed on the wholly uninteresting school delivery systems. Laughing
Post #1057660 17th Jan 2025 1:52pm
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LR Nuts



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That is because they tried to keep making them like they did in 1948 !!!

The BEST of the older LR ever build was the FL2, due to it being designed by Ford and built in Ford's factory.
FL2 ..... the Best Ford x Ford x Far Whistle

Current BEST has to be the New Defender.
Post #1057669 17th Jan 2025 3:23pm
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landy andy



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Agree. The current best school delivery system is the new defender Thumbs Up

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Post #1057670 17th Jan 2025 3:40pm
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