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Paul55



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England 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
MOT Advisories
Hi all, just had a couple of advisories on my Puma, XS (MY08) last week and would like to have them fixed, so would appreciate a couple of part numbers and guidance of which makes are best please.

Nearside Drag link end ball joint dust cover damaged or deteriorated, but preventing the ingress of dirt drag link end, part number on this one

Offside Front swivel hub wet with oil/leaking, is there a seal kit for this? or would it be better to replace whole unit, part numbers required in these also.

Thanks in advance
Paul ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป Cogito ergo sum
Post #1057436 15th Jan 2025 11:21am
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Johan_B



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Provided you have ABS, this is the kit for the swivel:
DA3180PG
What I have learned here is that Corteco seals seems to be the best bet. The kit includes an oil seal between the axle and the swivel, as well as a seal for the swivel grease. Not sure what others say but given the work involved it may pay to replace the swivel bearings as well, which are also included in the kit. If that is not needed you can get away with less if you order the seals separately.

For the rubber boot I don't know, but this seems to be the one: 214649
Post #1057447 15th Jan 2025 1:49pm
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custom90



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Just of of curiosity where did you get it done? Hope you donโ€™t mind me asking just wondering. No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #1057473 15th Jan 2025 5:32pm
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Esben Kold



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It is a fairly simple task to replace the seal if you remove the entire swivel ball and hub assembly. It is a bigger job if you strip the whole thing and replace the bearings. But it is a nice change to bring the parts back to life. You can easily clean and paint and so on. A dirty but satisfying job.
I would inspect the parts and then decide whether new swivel balls and stub axles are needed. But that is just me. I would also only do the whole thing if there is play in the bearings or the swivel balls have obvious pitting.
Post #1057499 15th Jan 2025 9:25pm
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Paul55



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England 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
custom90 wrote:
Just of of curiosity where did you get it done? Hope you donโ€™t mind me asking just wondering.


CDR Services near Wisbech ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป Cogito ergo sum
Post #1057505 15th Jan 2025 10:42pm
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custom90



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Ah, I had the same with the ball joint dust cover at Halfords last year.

I was curious as to if it may have been the same MOT chain company, but isnโ€™t, was interesting to know all the same.
Thank-you.

This job at least isnโ€™t too much involved to fix, I did my own.
The swivel hub however is a quite a bit more involved.

If you are looking for parts, part numbers for exactly the correct items the following link;

Click Here.

Could be useful to you. Thumbs Up No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #1057507 15th Jan 2025 10:55pm
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90 Dreamer



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if the boot is split / perished it will potentially allow water ingress / contamination and subsequent failure so any decent MOT guy will highlight........

you have a beef because it was pointed out????
Post #1057517 16th Jan 2025 8:52am
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custom90



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No, I was interested to know if there was a common defect that could be logged on systems to check for. At a specific estimated date for xx model year, as mine is similar to the OPโ€ฆ

Supposedly, presumably you have passed yours clean sheet every single year? Every year without even an advisory or fail ever?

There is the DVLA system, but some / most companies have their own like JLR does for VIN, VRN and various other details.

And yes, I was aware of the ingress by dirt etc. which is why I replaced the whole knuckle joint, when the MOT tester said a new boot alone would be fine, but it might be a bit of a pain to fit just a new boot on. So I fitted a complete new joint myself, which is best overall and gets rid of the aspect of expected wear over time, as well as ingress that could develop.

If there is an advisory, thatโ€™s repair as soon as possible, if it isnโ€™t by the next test that usually is then a fail by that stage as a year should be easily long enough to sort most things out.
Worse case scenario is someone can chose temporary SORN if they needed to. No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #1057531 16th Jan 2025 12:26pm
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Paul55



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Thanks for the advice guys, am going to replace the whole lot, in 17yrs of ownership I think this is the s 2/3rd advisory I've had, so always sort it out, thanks again Thumbs Up Cogito ergo sum
Post #1057540 16th Jan 2025 1:16pm
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Mo Murphy



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Almost every ball joint has a flexible rubber cover that will eventually perish / split. It happens on every car of every age. They are consumables and should be inspected regularly.
Gwyn Lewis do some really nice silicone boots for steering ball joints that are much more robust than the originals.

Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.

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Post #1057563 16th Jan 2025 4:50pm
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custom90



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Yes indeed, it was Gwyn Lewis ones that I went for, and greaseable so was a little upgrade I think.
Only thing is, on the particular joint mentioned, due to the fact itโ€™s inverted and facing upwards, I put a grease nipple cover on that one.
I mean, yes it can easily come off, but grease nipples are pretty good but helps stop water going in having a cover on. If they are that way up, the other way around or horizontal then Iโ€™d probably leave off.
I tend to go for greasable items now, and the boots being more durable is ideal and more grease / oil resistant.
I think oils are the main detriment to the standard rubber seals. Very Happy No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #1057570 16th Jan 2025 5:43pm
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