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| rallysteve Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2237   
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Our house is an 1850s sandstone construction which has an attached barn which is half matching sandstone and half traditional brickwork.
I am wanting to fit a roller-shutter door into the end of the barn as the current access is just via a narrow personnel door (all of the other doorways/windows have been bricked up over the last 175yrs. If this was a stand-alone barn, I wouldn't be bothered about building control notification and things but with this being attached to the house I am dubious as to whether I need to get the local council involved or not? The roller-shutter door will be going in place of an existing window but will be much larger and require a steel/lintel installing. Can anyone offer any advice please? Cheers, Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread |
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16th Dec 2024 10:38am |
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| rallysteve Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2237
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Thanks for the info. I have no neighbors (only cows) but the door will be on a visible side of the barn from the road. Fortunately the building is not listed at all, nor is in a conservation area. Certainly wont spoil the look for anyone else, if anything will be an improvement over the current rotten window and tatty brickwork!
I did have a provisional look through the permitted developments but as it falls into a bit of a grey area of being attached to the house I couldn't really find anything applicable. Its not a garage conversion, nor a carport. If it were detached from the house I think it would be fine. I will have another look at the planning portal. As we have only lived here since late summer and only in the area since Feb so haven't had any experience of the local council building control. Where we lived previously they were totally useless at offering advice as to what constituted notifiable works. 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread |
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16th Dec 2024 11:53am |
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| Gareth Member Since: 12 Dec 2011 Location: Woodford Posts: 1107 
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16th Dec 2024 12:06pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5111  
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Building control is not set up to deter alterations in listed areas, that is for planning departments, the control exists only to regulate what you do regarding current building regulations, such as using the correct materials safely and properly.
The only drawback of getting building control involved is that they will also check the existing building for any alterations done in the past without their consent. Also, the latest building regulations demand that if any combustibles will be stored in the barn or any ancillary building (especially if it is attached to the main dwelling) they may ask you to fit a sprinkler system such a system costs thousands. They may also ask that you employ an architect to submit any relevant plans. I have personally been involved with building control several times, and they have generally been helpful and fair, although their fees can be expensive. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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16th Dec 2024 12:25pm |
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| rallysteve Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2237
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No, fortunately about 10miles outside of the Lake District national park boundary. Cheers Glarion, that is some useful info and food for thought. As we have only just bought the house, in theory there shouldn't be any undisclosed surprises regarding building control (planning i am confident is fine) but the seller was a know-it-all bodger and was very difficult so wouldn't surprise me! Cheers, Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread |
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16th Dec 2024 1:43pm |
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| MarkBrown Member Since: 03 Oct 2022 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 475 
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My experience with building control when I rebuilt my place was excellent. The inspector was helpful, always at the end of the phone to help and give advice. Generally speaking, with and old property what you do must be an improvement over what’s existing, unless it’s in a different place. For example I removed my stairs and made them wider and less steep, with a dog leg, which was a considerable improvement over what was there, but if I wanted to change their location, then I’d have had to fit a new set, up to current regulations. I fact, I took the whole roof off and replaced it, exceeding current standards - insulation, timber thickness, fire prevention - without any specific planning approval, as it was just a replacement, although it was later incorporated with permission for extensions. The building inspector ( control ) just said ‘ yes, it’s alright now ‘. Under 25 percent is a general repair and essentially you can do what you want, but again it’s expected that what you do is an improvement, such as loft insulation. Most of it seems fair really. What you can’t do is downgrade something, for example take out a patio door and fit greenhouse glass. 1983 110 automatic OM606
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16th Dec 2024 2:08pm |
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| RFT Member Since: 13 Nov 2010 Location: Cheshire Posts: 680 
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Building control is quite separate to planning consent.
This is the gov.uk guidance https://www.gov.uk/building-regulations-approval 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper |
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16th Dec 2024 10:22pm |
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