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Barneyboy



Member Since: 19 Nov 2014
Location: Exmoor
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England 1986 Defender 90 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Nato Green
custom90 wrote:
Still no power my end so it’s 18v drill batteries for light etc for me.

I made a quick phone charger also from one with a buck converter board in parallel set down to 14.5v, then to a plug in 12v to 5v stable usb charger then on down to phone via USB.

Is anyone else still without power?
19:06 Sat, currently.

Originally was scheduled to be back on at mid day, then 6pm.


I think might be tomorrow.


Hi Custom90 our power was due to come back on at 6:00pm tomorrow but came on about 25 minutes ago, we are just outside Wheddon Cross Thumbs Up cheers Paul
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sako243



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Barneyboy wrote:
Hi all, I’ve been off line since early morning due to no power and it’s now just come back on, apologies for my question as I didn’t describe/explain it clearly, all I want to be able to do is have a socket fitted on the outside of my cottage which will power one socket inside my cottage purely just to use the power of our small 2kw generator rather than running an extension lead through a window, neither socket would be connected to the mains electric, I’m probably making a meal of what I’m trying to achieve but thought this would be a simple option if it’s possible rather than feeding an extension lead around the house, Thumbs Up cheers Paul


That is perfectly possible but bear in mind what others have said about the gender of plugs. As a rule the "live" end should be female so you can't poke it with your fingers. Not quite what I did but our house used to be an old care home so what is now the outside bog used to be a PTO driven generator room and still had all the changeover gear installed bar a socket for the generator so I grabbed a socket from the workshop and wired it in.


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Then had to go around and pull fuses out of the 7 distribution boards in the house (yup, it's that big and that much of a "mess") to limit initial stuff to just lights. We did actually get the boiler going as well (given it's heating 35 radiators on the ground floors it's not small). Thankfully it's about 40 years old so nice and reliable with minimal electrics, in fact both hi head pumps and boiler run off a 5A feed.

Time to sort out the bigger 28kVA gennie although ironically I don't think it'll offer much more than the 4kW as it's 3 phase so needs to be reasonably balanced. Ed
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BadgerWaz



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I strongly agree with the responses that suggest you should have a competent engineer give you advice on this.

By powering your home in the manner suggested you are also potentially back-feeding which can put others at risk including yourselves.

Running a flex from your generator to your home sockets is plausable (provided you are islotaed from the incoming tails), but due to the load/current you may pull the flex may actually melt/combust from friction. Cables actually have design temperatures so if you pull too many amps through too thin a cable you'll possibly start a fire. DIY'ers who swap their own electric showers are good examples of this.

Where we live we endure powercuts as part of living here, but keep fish so need a constant supply. As such we start our generator and run appliances off that in-keeping with the generators capacity. We have the internet/tv/aquarium/pond/kettle/lighting as a minimum, so I've not yet felt the need to have a back-up generator hard-wired.

Have a look on screwfix for a cheap home generator (petrol/Diesel) and run what you need off that as and when (some can spike and damage electroncis such as computers though so do some homework).
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Barneyboy



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Hi, thank you all for your comments, they are all very much appreciated, I will take heed of all of the advice and will speak to my sparky, cheers Paul Thumbs Up
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Procta



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how did everyone fair with the weather? Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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Barneyboy



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England 1986 Defender 90 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Nato Green
Hi Procta, we didn’t have it as bad as other parts of the country, Butlins at Minehead had quite a bit of damage there and there were a lot of trees down around us, the worst we had was a panel and a gate blew over, how about you? Cheers Paul
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Procta



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A few small trees down, and a bit of damage in a local area to me, the wall of their yard came down. But then again the full area around that area is very old. The beaches took a right hammering and a local coast road was flooded. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!
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BadgerWaz



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nicam



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I was lucky when the house I bought 10 or so years ago already had an "Emergency ring main" installed.
It is completely independent of the rest of the house wiring and has double sockets (marked on the faceplate as "Emergency Socket) in most rooms.
It is fed by a plug in the garage into which a generator can be connected (or, latterly, my V2L output from an EV).
By having lamps plugged into these sockets and moving fridge / freezer and central heating boiler supplies over to the adjacent socket, the house is fine during a power cut. By not interfering with the normal wiring it is also obvious when the mains power is restored which is an issue if you isolate the incoming mains supply.
So, if anyone is contemplating a rewire of their house, I suggest seriously considering putting in a seperate ring main for this purpose. It won`t cost that much extra and with ever more EV`s about with V2L you don`t even need a generator. Don`t drive faster than your angel can fly!
Post #1054421 11th Dec 2024 12:04pm
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